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February 12, 2021
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Just upgraded but need help

  • February 12, 2021
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Hi all

I've just updated from lightroom 6 to the lightroom plan (lightroom, 1tb cloud storage).

I am having trouble with things though.

1. why can't I delete rejected photos from my originals like in 6. now I have to reject them, then filter them, delete them, then go into the original folder and delete them. In 6 you reject, select delete, select delete originals. What am I doing wrong?

2. All my pictures where nicely organiced into folders on LR 6. JPEG and RAW folders etc. I could add pictures to LR6 and just update the folder locations, and they would be added, still in their folders. In the new LR they are all added in a heap, mixed up. I don't want to have to sift through 20k photos trying to organise them again. I even migrated my old account and that just dumped the pictures, unorganised on to the new LR. Again what am I doing wrong.

Running LR6 on a Mac Catalina (being replaced as its old and slow)

Running new LR on a new Mac Catalina 

Please help

Dan 

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Correct answer Jao vdL

You should probably have upgraded to Classic instead. The fundamental thing to understand about Lightroom Desktop is that all your images reside in the cloud. There is no such thing as "Folders" in that program. Lightroom Desktop misses most essential features that are present in LR 6 and Classic such as printing, easy sharing on social media, virtual copies, easy quick selection workflows like you describe, etc, etc. It does owever keep all your images in the cloud and when you run Lightroom on a tablet or phone it will look exactly like what you see on your desktop. That said, 

 

1. Deleting images from the entire library while being inside an album (there are no folders inside Lightroom desktop) is done by using option-delete (or using the contextual menu when clicking on one selected image and selecting "delete x photos")

 

2. This is a fundamental feature of Lightroom Desktop. All images end up in the same place in all photos which you can filter by date, star rating, etc. but fundamentally they are always in the same place (the cloud). You can put references to them in albums which are just like collections in Classic Lightroom but not move them. If you need folder organization you need Classic.

 

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Dan98C6Author
Participant
February 17, 2021

Thanks to all

 

I downloaded the trail to classic and realise that it is pretty much exactly the same as 6. However I'm not paying £20 a month to get classic and 1tb cloud storage. It's just greed on Adobe's part that I bought 6 outright for a little over £100 brand new, but now they want over that for 1 year with minimal cloud storage.

 

Because of all this I have found another platform that for £50 and with no subscription fee I can get everything that I desire in RAW editing.

 

Thanks again

 

Jim Wilde
Community Expert
Community Expert
February 14, 2021

2. All my pictures where nicely organiced into folders on LR 6. JPEG and RAW folders etc. I could add pictures to LR6 and just update the folder locations, and they would be added, still in their folders. In the new LR they are all added in a heap, mixed up. I don't want to have to sift through 20k photos trying to organise them again. I even migrated my old account and that just dumped the pictures, unorganised on to the new LR. Again what am I doing wrong.

 

Lightroom uses Albums and Folders to organise your images....these equate to Collections and Collection Sets in LR6 (and LR Classic). For those users who preferred to use the disk-based folders to organise their library, Adobe provided the means to convert your existing folder structure into Collection Sets (Folders) and Collections (Sub-folders) in Lightroom Classic. Then, when the Classic catalog is migrated to the Lightroom desktop app, those Collection Sets and Collections are converted to Folders and Albums. In other words, your existing image organisation would be fully replicated in the Cloud.

But that conversion in Classic needs to be done before migrating the catalog to the Lighroom app.

Jao vdLCommunity ExpertCorrect answer
Community Expert
February 13, 2021

You should probably have upgraded to Classic instead. The fundamental thing to understand about Lightroom Desktop is that all your images reside in the cloud. There is no such thing as "Folders" in that program. Lightroom Desktop misses most essential features that are present in LR 6 and Classic such as printing, easy sharing on social media, virtual copies, easy quick selection workflows like you describe, etc, etc. It does owever keep all your images in the cloud and when you run Lightroom on a tablet or phone it will look exactly like what you see on your desktop. That said, 

 

1. Deleting images from the entire library while being inside an album (there are no folders inside Lightroom desktop) is done by using option-delete (or using the contextual menu when clicking on one selected image and selecting "delete x photos")

 

2. This is a fundamental feature of Lightroom Desktop. All images end up in the same place in all photos which you can filter by date, star rating, etc. but fundamentally they are always in the same place (the cloud). You can put references to them in albums which are just like collections in Classic Lightroom but not move them. If you need folder organization you need Classic.

 

JP Hess
Inspiring
February 12, 2021

The simple answer is, "Just because." Lightroom cloudy organizes images much differently. I think you will find that the images were imported (migrated) and organized by date. That's just the way it is, images are not organized in the typical folder structure as they are in Lightroom 6 or Lightroom Classic. You cannot change that. However, you can organize images into albums which are similar to collections.


The delete process will work as best you can make it work. Again, it probably works somewhat differently. Lightroom cloudy apparently has to function under different constraints because of the heavy interaction with the Internet. I can't give you any more information than that because I'm not really that familiar with Lightroom. I mostly use Lightroom Classic.