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February 16, 2021
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Lightroom web gallery : ordering problems

  • February 16, 2021
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Hi there,

I've read several different posts about ordering pictures in Lightroom Web via the display tab, but couldn't find something linked to my problem.

I have a collection that is synced with cloud and I'm currently working on it (adding pictures when they are ready)via a Lightroom Classic synced collection.

First problem : in the display tab, when I'm choosing "Importation date" for the order, the file order is quite random. I guess the upload process is kind of random but still, pictures uploaded on the day n+1 can be displayed before pictures synced on day n.... So I don't really understand how pictures are ordered. So, I choose to order via "Capture time" which is quite certain.

Second problem : whatever is the choosen order, if I have set some titles in the display tab. Adding only one more picture to the synced gallery will result in loosing completey the photos order : titles will display ramdomly at the bottom of the gallery with or without pictures in it... I was thinking that setting "Importation order" would add the pictures at the bottom without altering the titles but it's not working either...

That second problem means I have to wait that my editing process is completely finished before being able to set titles in my gallery. And  that if I have forgotten to add ANY picture in the synced collection or want to add some later, I have to start over the title process again...

Any way to get ride of this ? To Adobe : are you working on improving the display tab ??

Thanks,

Mickaël.

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    Jim Wilde
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    Jim WildeCommunity Expert
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    February 16, 2021

    It's possible that you're not fully understanding how the Display tab is designed to work. At the basic level, it's intended as a means to allow the user to set the order in which the images in the specific album will be displayed when viewed by other people using the Shared Album feature. The display order is always going to be whatever has been set as the "Custom Order", and that custom order can be set by drag and drop in any of the client apps in the user's cloud ecosystem (including using the Display tab in LrWeb). However, via that Display tab in the LrWeb app, the user can do a few other things that can't be done in any of the other client aps: you can add dividers/headers/sub-headers/text to add interest and information to the shared alsbum for the viewers, and you can also "reset" the custom order using the option at the bottom of the Display tab's settings box.

     

    So, you obviously understand how to add sections and text, but you need to realise that selecting one of those order options only does a point-in-time reset of the current custom/display order into whatever option order you have set. It does NOT change the "sort order" for all new images subsequently added to the album, it just changes the current "custom order".....so any images added to the album after resetting the order will only appear either at the beginning or the end of the album when viewed in the Display tab. Furthermore, resetting the order after you've added text will cause any added text to be removed, though you should receive this warning about that:

     

    The way I work when adding text segments in the Display tab is to broadly get the album contents together (I do the editing before this). If I'm happy to use one of the standard sort orders, e.g. Capture Date, I'll reset the order as appropriate using the control on the Display tab settings, but if I want to use a specific custom order I'll use drag and drop in the Display tab to get them into the order I want (though you can of course get them into the preferred custom order using any other Lightroom app). Then I'll add the section dividers, headings, text etc. If, after setting everything up, I realise there are some additional images I want to add to the album, I'll add them then open up the album's Display tab, locate the added images (easy enough to do) and then drag and drop them into the position that I want them displayed in. Resetting the custom order is a bad idea in this circumstance.

     

    Hope that helps.

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    mickaëlb91434182Author
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    February 16, 2021

    Hi Jim and thanks for your quick response.

    My only use of the web gallery is indeed to share it with my customers. And most of the time, like you do, I send the pictures in a gallery once the postprocessing is done, then changing order in LrWeb and adding titles at the very end of the workflow.

    The problem appears for me at the last step you've indicated ("If, after setting everything up, I realise there are some additional images I want to add to the album") : when I'm adding a picture after this customizing process in LrWeb, the new picture is indeed added at the beginning (which is not a problem for me) BUT the rest of the pictures are messed up : photos are no longer in their custom section , and moreover they have a new random sort ! At this point, it's less worst for me to reset the order and dividers than trying to reorder from the mess...

    It's really annoying in the case a customer says "Oh please can you add a black and white version of XXX in the gallery ?"... which, in fact, is part of the normal process before the final delivery of the pictures...

    Jim Wilde
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    Jim WildeCommunity Expert
    Community Expert
    February 16, 2021

    That's the bit I don't understand. When I add new images to an album after all the text segments have been created, the new images always appear at the END of the display, never the beginning. As such, all the sections are unchanged, the new additions appear at the end of the last section, from where I can drag and drop them into the approriate place. In other words, I don't lose the initial formatting when adding new images.

     

    I assume your problem is related to the fact that your new additions are appearing at the top of the list, but I can't see what influences that. Having said that, I've just managed to get into a situation where the last couple of additions to the test album that I'm using were added to the TOP of the list, and in that situation all the formatting has indeed been messed up, i.e. all the images now appear first, all the empty sections then follow. So we just need to figure out what influenced that change when adding new images. I have a feeling that either LrClassic or Lightroom desktop may be involved, do you use either of those in your workflow? 

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