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Robert at ID-Tasker
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March 17, 2024
Question

Different Scale factor when doing SAVE AS and SAVE FOR WEB - on Windows?

  • March 17, 2024
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Hi,

 

There is a thread on the InDesign forum:

 

https://community.adobe.com/t5/indesign-discussions/why-does-a-1024x1024-pixel-image-when-placed-in-a-1024x1024-indesign-document-need-resizing/m-p/14495495#M566387

 

and it looks like - at least on a PC - there is a difference after using Place - placed JPEGs are 50% smaller - when JPEG is SAVEd and when "exported"...

 

TIA

 

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Robert at ID-Tasker
Legend
March 19, 2024

Are you follwing this up in the InDesign forum? This still feels like an ID bug to me. Especially if these jpegs behave correctly elsewhere.

 

I don't know this, not being very proficient in programming, but it seems reasonable that size calculations happen on the receiving end. The ppi metadata in the jpeg is either there or not.

 

Yeah, it's possible that only InDesign is buggy...

 

D Fosse
Community Expert
Community Expert
March 19, 2024

Are you follwing this up in the InDesign forum? This still feels like an ID bug to me. Especially if these jpegs behave correctly elsewhere.

 

I don't know this, not being very proficient in programming, but it seems reasonable that size calculations happen on the receiving end. The ppi metadata in the jpeg is either there or not.

Robert at ID-Tasker
Legend
March 19, 2024

And it doesn't have to be a square - 4096x2048 and 2048x4096 - still places scaled down.

 

Robert at ID-Tasker
Legend
March 19, 2024

So beside the fact, that Mac is also affected - there is more:

 

 

Multiplies of 1024 - are always affected.

 

Robert at ID-Tasker
Legend
March 19, 2024

Looks like f) should be:

 

f) InDesign - Mac - correct wrong import of d)

 

Robert at ID-Tasker
Legend
March 18, 2024

And that's current conlcusion:

 

a) Photoshop - Win - bad JPEG when doing Save As 72ppi

b) InDesign - Win - wrong import of a)

c) InDesign - Mac - wrong import of a)

d) Photoshop - Mac - correct JPEG from Save As 72ppi

e) InDesign - Win - wrong import of d)

f) InDesign - Mac - correct import of d)

 

 

And one more thing - InDesign CS6 places correctly ...

 

Robert at ID-Tasker
Legend
March 18, 2024

JPEGs created on Mac - placed on a PC:

 

72, web, 96:

 

 

Robert at ID-Tasker
Legend
March 18, 2024

Got it. Sorry if I seem to be speed-reading and misunderstanding these posts, right now I'm just doing this while waiting for other things to process. That usually works well for more trivial questions

 
No problem

 

But this wasn't as trivial as it first seemed.

Since no one else seems to respond, I've been trying to follow up, but hopefully someone else can pick this up.

Still - maybe you shouldn't confuse the issue by bringing Illustrator into this. In fact, it seems to me that this belongs in the InDesign forum, not the Photoshop forum. The bug seems to be an InDesign bug, not a Photoshop bug.

 

At firts - it looked like Photoshop's problem on Windows - confirmed by Mac users.

 

I've mixed Illustrator in just to check and confirm - if it's Photoshop's or InDesign's - or both - problem.

 

On a Mac - Save As is working fine when placed into InDesign - but placing Windows generated JPEGs is still wrong on Mac - so it looks like there is a problem with Photoshop on Windows?

 

And there is definitely a bug in the InDesign when placing 72ppi JPEGs.

 

Only one thing left - checking how JPEGs generated on Mac will place into InDesign on a PC?

 

D Fosse
Community Expert
Community Expert
March 18, 2024

Got it. Sorry if I seem to be speed-reading and misunderstanding these posts, right now I'm just doing this while waiting for other things to process. That usually works well for more trivial questions 😉 But this wasn't as trivial as it first seemed.

 

Since no one else seems to respond, I've been trying to follow up, but hopefully someone else can pick this up.

 

Still - maybe you shouldn't confuse the issue by bringing Illustrator into this. In fact, it seems to me that this belongs in the InDesign forum, not the Photoshop forum. The bug seems to be an InDesign bug, not a Photoshop bug.