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DennyACRN
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February 1, 2023
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LEAVE PHOTOSHOP ALONE ALREADY

  • February 1, 2023
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I have an idea.... STOP changing Photoshop.

 

Adobe is utterly ruining Photoshop for loyal professionals. Professionals, who by the way have been using this program for longer than the people making the horrible changes! I have been using Photoshop for 17 years myself, and I have to say, I am so fed up with all the corporate "updates" which have essentially made this tool inferior to prior versions, and has created much frustration during my dev time. I will be recommending to the corporation I work for to no longer support Photoshop due to your increasingly poor administration of the software, and move to more friendly, and STABLE tools.

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    Correct answer Kevin Stohlmeyer

    Hi @DennyACRN If you are in an IT managed company like me, that most likely means your IT has access to the Adobe Enterprise client.

    That will allow them to manage what goes out when with even more granular control. You should speak with your internal Admin for the account and work together to come up with solutions instead of issues for your team.

     

    And yes, while the forums are populated with professionals having concerns and issues, many/most are either solved or turned into an enhancement on future releases. Overall a positive outcome.

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    Pedro Downunder
    Pedro Downunder
    Known Participant
    October 27, 2023

    Quite so. Adobe give the impression of racing to develop and release ever improved innovation in image editing software, whilst simultaneously using their customers to trial software that invariably is unstable. All this does is inconveniences the very people who keep this company afloat.

    Frankly, I believe a system of financial penalty should be imposed on Adobe (and other "can do" North American software developers) by the US federal government. High penalties should be implemented each time it can be consistently shown Adobe (Apple, etc) inconvenience and delay the productivity of their customer's work.

    I have a number of jobs to do over the next few days involving Photoshop and After Effects. This morning I was greeted by Photoshop 2024 cheerfully greying out third party plugins, and its own adjustment filters. A quick glimpse at Adobe's help page suggested the company "was aware of this and on to it". Is this limp, unapologetic explanation meant to reassure customers? 

    c.pfaffenbichler
    Community Expert
    c.pfaffenbichlerCommunity Expert
    Community Expert
    February 1, 2023
    Adobe is utterly ruining Photoshop for loyal professionals. 

    You seem to be mistaken. 

     

    I have been using Photoshop for 17 years myself, 

    So you cannot realistically remember Photoshop prior to the introduction of Layers, do you remember it from before the introduction of Smart Objects? 

     

    What do you mean by »corporate "update"«? 

    Can you give an example of what you referring to? 

     

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      DennyACRNAuthor
      Participating Frequently
      February 1, 2023

      lol... If 10 professionals are in the room, and 6 of them have issues aforementioned, then yes I can accurately state that I think Adobe is ruining Photoshop. In fact, I can have that opinion all for myself and share it to the world. 

      Yes, I remember back to 2006. 

      I work for a very large corporation who has a very robust IT department, which limits a lot of what we get to do. When Adobe went subscription, is when it got bad, and fjust has gotten worse sense. 

       

      c.pfaffenbichler
      Community Expert
      c.pfaffenbichlerCommunity Expert
      Community Expert
      February 2, 2023
      @DennyACRN wrote:

      lol... If 10 professionals are in the room, and 6 of them have issues aforementioned, then yes I can accurately state that I think Adobe is ruining Photoshop. In fact, I can have that opinion all for myself and share it to the world. 

      Yes, I remember back to 2006. 

      I work for a very large corporation who has a very robust IT department, which limits a lot of what we get to do. When Adobe went subscription, is when it got bad, and fjust has gotten worse sense. 

       

      Your opinions are certainly yours to have and share. 

      Most of the regulars on this Forum seem to be Photoshop Professionals that can work with Photoshop just fine (despite undeniable bugs) so you may appreciate that a supporting argument of 6 of 10 in some room complaining doesn’t seem convincing to everybody.

       

        TheDigitalDog
        TheDigitalDog
        Inspiring
        February 1, 2023

        From Adobe (community forums):
        "Currently, the community on community.adobe.com is used as a destination for customers to ask questions and engage in peer-to-peer conversations. IOW, this is a user-to-user support forum. The Adobe Support Community is a place to ask questions, find answers, learn from experts, and share your knowledge. Because we are a community used by people of all ages, cultures, and people at work, we carefully moderate its content".

        If you have problems or need answers from other users who volunteer their time to help, do so in a discussion topic and message body, whereby you post specifics (what's the problem or issue, or the question) and provide some information about your operating system, version of the software you're asking about and steps to illustrate your problem.

        1. If you want Adobe to be viewing what you post, there are two ways based on what you are hoping to report:
          If you wish to report what you believe is a bug, you do so by following these guidelines:
          https://community.adobe.com/t5/photoshop-ecosystem-bugs/how-do-i-write-a-bug-report/idc-p/12932310#M55898
        2. If you wish to provide a feature request, you do so by following these guidelines (then make a request in the product forum):
          https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-ideas/how-do-i-write-a-feature-request/idi-p/12386378

         

        Lastly, only speak for yourself, not all professionals. This is from a pro who's first version of Photoshop was 1.0.7 in 1990. 

        "Professionalism is knowing how to do it, when to do it, and doing it."-Frank Tyger

        Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"
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          DennyACRNAuthor
          Participating Frequently
          February 1, 2023

          Thanks for the links. Clearly I wasn't speaking for "all" professionals in fact I never eluded as much. I said loyal professionals. Go ahead and spend an hour or two in to forums and see I am not alone in this. Dating back many, many years. 

          Lastly, exactly how many professionals is required to be able to make the statement I made? Do you know?

          TheDigitalDog
          TheDigitalDog
          Inspiring
          February 1, 2023
          quote

          Adobe is utterly ruining Photoshop for loyal professionals. Professionals, who by the way have been using this program for longer than the people making the horrible changes!

           

          Lastly, exactly how many professionals is required to be able to make the statement I made? Do you know?


          By @DennyACRN

          Only one of us is speaking solely for ourselves professionally. 

          Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"
          Kevin Stohlmeyer
          Community Expert
          Kevin StohlmeyerCommunity Expert
          Community Expert
          February 1, 2023

          HI @DennyACRN

           

          First. you can manage your updates using the Creative Cloud desktop app to disable auto updates.

          That way you are in control and can decide when or if you want to update and avoid any "inferior" frustrations.

           

          Second if you are having such extreme issues with Photoshop effecting your workflow, have you posted questions for any solutions previously? I see this is your first post so I'm guessing not.

           

          If you can list our your issues there may be simple solutions to resolve and move past them.

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            DennyACRNAuthor
            Participating Frequently
            February 1, 2023

            Thanks for your reply. I don't get to always control the updates to the corporate machines.

            Can I go back to 2017, 2019, 2020? 

            I'll post questions when I need answers to particular problems that I cannot figure out on my own. Obviously I'm quite resourceful since I haven't had to ask anything in 17 years. This doesn't mean that I haven't had a thousand headaches from poor decisions by Adobe's leadership. The forums are saturated with professionals having the same concerns dating back to the inception of CC. 

              TheDigitalDog
              TheDigitalDog
              Inspiring
              February 1, 2023

              If you wish to roll back to an older version, use the Creative Cloud application, click on the three dots (...) and select “Other Versions”.

              Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"
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                February 1, 2023

                So... why do you upgrade, if you don't expect it to get better? I mostly run Photoshop 2017, which does very nicely for my needs.

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                  DennyACRNAuthor
                  Participating Frequently
                  February 1, 2023

                  It's the corporation's choice that I work for, not mine.

                    c.pfaffenbichler
                    Community Expert
                    c.pfaffenbichlerCommunity Expert
                    Community Expert
                    February 1, 2023
                    @DennyACRN wrote:

                    It's the corporation's choice that I work for, not mine.

                    If you can recommend to your company to stop working with Photoshop altogether recommending not to (auto-)update would not seem out of the possible. 

                      kglad
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                      kgladCommunity Expert
                      Community Expert
                      February 1, 2023

                      in the future, to find the best place to post your message, use the list here, https://community.adobe.com/

                       

                      p.s. i don't think the adobe website, and forums in particular, are easy to navigate, so don't spend a lot of time searching that forum list. do your best and we'll move the post if it helps you get responses.

                       

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