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November 5, 2008
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Photoshop CS4 is a disaster

  • November 5, 2008
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I'm am just at a loss of words.

What a mess. It could not be any slower. What were you thinking Adobe?

You ripped apart the code just to add GPU support for what? To provide worse performance?

Make sure you DL the demo first... CS4 is a disaster.

The latest hardware cant even run it smoothly... Dont tell me its graphic drivers.
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    Known Participant
    January 17, 2009
    Russell,

    What version of OGL do you have?

    Have you started to play with the underlying driver OGL and 3D management settings?

    May I borrow this post and your response for another thread? It may come in handy.

    H
    Known Participant
    January 17, 2009
    Nick,

    What PS build are you using?
    What is your OGL version?
    What size image?
    Do you use Bigger tiles?

    I get tile repaint and transparency issues with OGL , but not full drop-out.

    Have you disabled Documents as Tabs -- I used to get drop-out until I disabled that.

    H
    January 17, 2009
    Didn't help, Russel, but thanks for the post.

    To reiterate: My biggest problem with CS4, with OGL enabled, is dragging an open window around. When I do that, the content disappears. Chris Cox has said (somewhere in this never-ending thread) that Adobe has been unable to reproduce the problem. This leaves me with a very empty feeling, update-wise.

    I know, without searching, that other people have seen this. Are any of you still out there?
    Participating Frequently
    January 16, 2009
    > I migrated to fanless, big heat sink video cards for that reason.

    I just finished grafted an Arctic Cooling Accelero S1(rev2) onto a Sapphire Radeon HD 3870 following the method outlined at http://www.silentpcreview.com/article793-page1.html and it's totally silent, except for a 120mm fan set to low that was recommended by the same silentpcreview article.

    Now back to XP with CS4...

    If I go to CS4's Preferences -> Performance -> OpenGL Advanced Settings and turn off some of the features the lag is reduced substantially to the point that I can work with the app easily:

    1) Vertical Sync : Worse choice/ very sluggish drawing response

    2) 3D Interaction Acceleration:
    Slows things a bit

    3) Force Bilinear Interpolation:
    Doesn't slow things down (might even help?)

    4) Advanced Drawing, Use for Image Display, Color Matching:
    Doesn't slow things down

    All the bells and whistles of PSCS4 seem to be working fine with 1 and 2 disabled.

    FWIW this card works fine in Vista64. Hope this might help some who use Radeon cards and for whom these simple settings changes might help.
    Participating Frequently
    January 16, 2009
    Same here. I migrated to fanless, big heat sink video cards for that reason.
    January 16, 2009
    >making the card make a terrible noise for 30 seconds upon a cold start-up. Oddly hot-starts werent a prob.

    That scenario would make me think about fan bearings going bad...
    Known Participant
    January 16, 2009
    Daniel,

    There are sources for larger-capacity power supplies. I typically work with xoxide.com

    Hugh
    Participant
    January 16, 2009
    Is it possible that when you disable or modify some OpenGL settings in order to get CS4 to redraw faster that you are sacrificing the new CS4 feature of its providing a finer screen presentation at odd zooms other than 100%?

    At this time, I have no way to test this since I had to remove my OpenGL card because of unrelated issues [dont ask]well, OK: my power supply was insufficient for the card upgrade making the card make a terrible noise for 30 seconds upon a cold start-up. Oddly hot-starts werent a prob. So rather than fool anymore with my 5 yr old PC: gonna get another but am afraid to until this screen lag problem is solved.
    Participating Frequently
    January 15, 2009
    I've begun to move away from my 'old faithful CRT' and try out dual LCDs. My previous videocard (ATI Radeon HD-2400) had 1x VGA and 1x DVI outputs and I suspected the slight difference in colour behaviour from one screen to the other identical model was due to this difference in connection. So I picked up a Sapphire Radeon HD 3870 Video Card with the hope that this more powerful card might also improve CS4's lag.

    In Vista 64 the card works fine and there seems to be very little lag when cloning or drawing. But with XP it's very sluggish and the delay is unacceptable for any real world work (sticking with Cs3 for now).

    Tomorrow I'll poke at the OpenGL options that have been recommended in this thread to see if they help. But just to let folks know that it works better with Vista 64 than XP at this point. I'm using the latest 8.12 ATI driver in XP and 8.11 in Vista64 (8.12 has a known issue with Vist64 that's not yet resolved by ATI).

    Russell
    January 13, 2009
    Adam,

    >Also, we found a possible workaround (nVidia only) for the issue of images not redrawing or drawing incorrectly when moved:

    Any hope for ATI users?