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December 4, 2008
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Printing too dark in CS4

  • December 4, 2008
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I have CS4 on Tiger 10.4.11 on a completely color managed system, Epson 4800 printer. Printing seems to be broken in the new version. Prints are very dark. I know to select "Photoshop Manages Color" in Color Handling, and "No Color Management" in the printer color management dropdown. The procedure works fine in CS3.

That something is up is suggested by this wrinkle. In this case I am printing using advanced b/w. If under color handling I choose "Printer Manages Color" and go into the b/w advanced setup, it's still too dark. If instead I choose "No color management", then make my choices in advanced b/w, it works fine.

One would first think that it's a double color management problem, but I'm turning it off anywhere I can see it in CS4, and still having problems. Is there a new secret handshake I haven't puzzled out yet?
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    _SoleSole_
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    February 5, 2009
    Hi Ramón, I run an Intel MAC 10.5.6.
    Ramón G Castañeda
    Ramón G Castañeda
    Inspiring
    February 5, 2009
    >and they don't think the profiles have to change from CS3 to CS4.

    Neither do I. But you have something else at work. Sorry if I missed it, but are you running Leopard? A Mac-Intel box?

    I'm only asking that to ascertain whether I should bow out of the thread.
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    _SoleSole_
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    February 5, 2009
    Yes I checked the settings a dozen times. All is set the way I had it in CS3, the same as you describe. I also called the company who does my paper profiles, and they don't think the profiles have to change from CS3 to CS4. Epson said not to waste time with this and wait for a patch.
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    Anonymous
    February 5, 2009
    If you don't use Epson Papers (or have custom profiles for the papers that you do use) you are sailing in troubled waters.

    Experiment with some of the Paper profiles that you do have and see if one of them gives better results with your paper.

    Are you sure that you have set "Photoshop Manages Colors" and that your Profile is the same in both the first Print window and in the Print Settings in the second window; and that Color Management (in the second window) shows: "Off (No Color Adjustment)".
    Ramón G Castañeda
    Ramón G Castañeda
    Inspiring
    February 5, 2009
    >I don't use Epson papers.

    Then you need specific profiles for those papers in conjunction with your printer. All profiles have to be specific to one combination of printer/ink/paper. But I gather you know that already

    >went to the Epson UK site, and there is no Epson 3800 printer. Is that printer called something else in the UK?

    Very likely, but then the profile for the UK model won't work with your printer. I use the Epson 2200, which is the 2100 in the UK and the rest of Europe. The profile for the 2100 and my Epson 2200 do not recognize each other.

    I sould add: CS4 running under 10.4.11 is generating outstanding, right-on-target prints on my Epson 2200.
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    _SoleSole_
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    February 5, 2009
    I went to the Epson UK site, and there is no Epson 3800 printer. Is that printer called something else in the UK?

    Also, I don't use Epson papers. So that would mean that because CS4 has changed their color algorithms, I have to change all my paper profiles?

    The only thing I changed here is CS3 to CS4. I did not make changes to anything Epson....
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    Anonymous
    February 5, 2009
    This is an Epson issue.

    Go to the Epson UK (NOT Epson USA) and download the latest Printer driver for your Printer.

    Also, check to see if Epson have created "Premium ICC" Profiles for your printer for the papers that you use.

    I am using Epson's "Premium ICC" Profiles on a R1900 with CS4 and the prints are outstanding and entirely faithful to the Soft Preview.

    However, I am using OSX 10.4.11 and this could also have a bearing on it.
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    _SoleSole_
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    February 5, 2009
    I have the exact same problem. When printing on my Epson 3800 from CS4 all prints too dark. If I switch back to CS3 all prints as it is supposed to. When I contacted Adobe, I was told that the engineers will get back to me on the issue and that there does not seem to be any solution available at the moment. So just forget CS4 and use CS3.

    CAN ADOBE FOR ONCE GET THEIR ACT TOGETHER?
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    LarryGRC
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    January 12, 2009
    Wnderlnd - I'm having Magenta problems today. I didn't change anything overnight. I'm also frustrated with my R1800. There is a magenta cast on my prints!!! I used hue/saturation to put a plus 8 to get an acceptable print. I've checked everything! And tried the old driver and tried CS3. No more time today.
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    _Wnderlnd_
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    January 11, 2009
    OMG...I have spent all day printing the same image small test papers varying one option at a time. My images either come out too dark or too light...not at all what is on my calibrated screen.

    I am printing on an Epson R1800 from CS4 on a Mac Pro (intel-based) running leopard. I am so frustrated. I figured a work-around in CS3, but it jsut isn't the same, or even close in CS4, and forget about turning off the printer color managment...that is just terrible.

    Tom, I am totally going to do this tonight. I'll run a back-up first, just in case. Then try it. THANKS for the idea and all the numbers!
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