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The new transform tool overhaul sucks.

Forum|Forum|7 years ago
December 6, 2018
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I just had to chime in, even though Adobe is a company that's "Too Big to Care" these days.

I have lost hours of productivity because of how drastically they changed the transform tools.

First, I had to spend an hour trying to figure out why none of the key modifiers worked anymore, why there was no reference point, and why I can no longer drag guides into my image while the transform tool is active.

#1. In order to revert your PREFERENCE back to the legacy version of how this works, you have to add a user prefs TEXT FILE to your adobe preferences folder? Why couldn't you just add a checkbox in the preferences like all of the other stupid UI "features" you've added that nobody wants — such as "scrubby zoom" and "animated zoom" etc.?

#2. I had to go watch a YOUTUBE video on how to get my reference point back because it was not intuitive. Granted, it's a simple checkbox in the tool options I admit I should have looked at more closely for this.

#3. You can no longer drag guides into your document with the transform tool active without COMMITTING your transform the second you click on the ruler. I found out through experimentation that you CAN do it if you hold down OPT or CMD, I don't even know which one it is yet because I need to commit that to muscle memory now. In the meantime I've had to REDO complex skew / distort transformations SEVERAL times because I accidentally clicked on the ruler to drag a guide into the document only to have the transform committed to the document before I was ready.

I am so sick of hipster douche bags who think the answer to making software better is to DUMB IT DOWN.

If anyone can give me ONE benefit other than "they did this to make it work better on touch screens" I might try and force myself to adapt to this new way of doing things, but the reality was that some douche hipster developer decided to change things around that weren't broken in the first place to make them WORSE so that he/she could say "look what I did" at the stupid scrum meeting.

There are other things I absolutely hate about this most recent update, but this is my biggest one.

I am sure Adobe employees don't even bother reading their own forum threads, but if you do, pay attention to your user base and stop re-arranging deck chairs on the Titanic and claiming you gave us some "new feature" because as far as I can see there is nothing NEW or beneficial here. And if your goal was to make it more "mobile friendly" by making a one size fits all solution — then you are going to end up with a horrible desktop AND mobile experience because the 2 experiences have different needs.

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jimp87522270

Inspiring

I'm with you 100% on all this. Just another unbelievably boneheaded "upgrade" to something that has worked perfectly for DECADES. I've said it since the early 90s - there is no way Adobe has any actual end users on staff because every change they make creates more problems than it solves.

johnnyc18847392

Participant

The new transform tool maddens me to no end... other designers in the studio HATE it too, I'm at the point of reverting to use Microsoft Paint 1995. Please change it back ASAP

JJMack

Community Expert

That is an Option you have in your Photoshop Preference use it.

JJMack

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jimp87522270

Inspiring

Thanks for the graphic - made it easy for us...

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johnnyc54250686

Participant

This is also my frustrations with Adobe, if you are going to make drastic changes, make it across the board. If you're going to mess with the transform tool in Photoshop, believing this is the best step forward, do it across the board. This transform tool is really Frustrating. Feels like Adobe is running out of ideas, so you're just trying to fix things that didnt need fixing.

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jimp87522270

Inspiring

Adobe ran out of useful changes to Illustrator and Photoshop around version 10 or so. It's been mostly unnecessary bloat and moving things around to pretend like you need to keep upgrading since then. It's infuriating. I'd pay them the same amount per year (gladly) if they didn't do anything to the programs except add things that apply to new tech entering the workplace - for instance adding web features when the internet became a thing (yeah, I've been a user that long). The rest is garbage you might use a couple times a year and can just as easy (or easier) use a common workaround.

Barb Binder

Community Expert

Hi Adam:

A few thoughts for you (and others sharing your frustration):

When Adobe releases a major update (or any update), take a few minutes to review the What's New page so that you are alerted to the changes. This can save you hours of frustration because now you won't be blindsided by a simple interface update or miss a major new feature. I recommend bookmarking this page: New and enhanced features | Latest release of Photoshop CC
I have been teaching Photoshop since version 3 and new users struggle specifically with the reference point (they move it instead of the object) and scaling proportionately (they forget to hold the Shift key). The workflow changes that were so frustrating to you are a game changer for new users. Advanced users can reestablish the old behavior if they like, as you figured out.
Adobe does listen to the users. This is a user-to-user forum (users helping each other resolve workflow issues) but Adobe has a page for users to communicate with the Photoshop team: Photoshop Family Customer Community. This is another important page to bookmark because not only can you share your frustration with the folks who can address issues in a future upgrade (as users, we can't), you will be alerted to other issues immediately. The day that CC 2019 was released, there was lots of talk both on the community forum and the customer community page on the interface updates.
My final recommendation is to pop over here and ask question as it arises. Chances are someone beat you to it and it is already addressed, but we are here to help. The quicker you ask as a question, the quicker you can get back to work.

~Barb

~Barb at Rocky Mountain Training

JJMack

Community Expert

Barb

I have been using PS since PS3 can you explain why Adobe Photoshop development and support has been so poor and has gone down hill even more after CS3. This is not the first time Adobe has impacted users work habits. Since CS6 all new releases of PS seem to have so many bugs. A bug reported in CS2 is still in CC 2019. Why does Adobe feel that they do not need to fix bugs that only effect small percent of their user. A few percent here and a few percent there start adding up when your user community is like 12,000,000 subscribers.

How many version of PS do you keep installed? How many bugs do you have a work around for? Years ago I look forward and could hardly wait for a new PS release that end with CS6.

JJMack

Barb Binder

Community Expert

Hi JJMack :

I'm a user like you so I really can't answer your question about bugs or support. I know you know this—but for others—post the questions that only Adobe can answer on the Problems page: Photoshop Family Customer Community.

I can say that I was at MAX this past fall (which I highly recommend) and did get to chat a bit with the Photoshop team, so I know that they made the two interface changes that Adam mentioned specifically to address the steep learning curve for new users. I'm a user and a trainer so I see it from both sides: great for a brand new user, but advanced users have to adapt or adjust their preferences. My point to Adam is that there are strategies we can implement for staying abreast of the updates and the bugs, and implementing them earlier rather than later will minimize the frustration. (Not eliminate, minimize.)

As for how many versions I keep installed? I teach and use (and support) InDesign, InCopy, Illustrator, Photoshop, Acrobat and FrameMaker. I keep three versions installed of each: the two latest versions plus CS6 on the CC side and FrameMaker 2015 (before its major interface change). If a new release is buggy, my strategy is to use the older version until I see here that it's stable. And I have learned the hard way to never upgrade an application or an operating system when I'm in the middle of a job with a deadline or before I start a new class.

I'm a realist. Life requires that we develop coping strategies. So do computer applications.

~Barb

~Barb at Rocky Mountain Training

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ceanderson81

Participant

I agree and I have to say something. I gave it my best shot to learn the new setup but they need to fire the dumb ass that thought this one up

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Anonymous

Hi

You can revert it back to the old way, more info

Transform objects in Photoshop

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ceanderson81

Participant

I did revert it back to the old setting and now the direct selection tool when shift selecting multiple objects to drag has a lag. I’m not very technical with versions or descriptions of photoshop tool history however when new users transition to intermediate and advance use skills they learn the (shift, control, option, etc) keys all do something when combined with specific tools and it should be their duty placed on them by photoshop to advance this skill with that mindset. As an advanced level photoshop user of 10 years I usually look forward to the updates understanding they add value to the software advancing its capabilities, I was extremely disappointed when one of the tools I use the most was dumbed down and made harder for advanced users. I gave it a month or so to relearn muscle memory until I finally realized someone at adobe got their way and was just plain wrong in their choice.

JJMack

Community Expert

Why are you starting a new thread on this in a users forum? If you want to give Adobe your feedback please use their feedback site. You may want to read these.

https://forums.adobe.com/search.jspa?place=%2Fplaces%2F1413024&q=2019+Transform

JJMack