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Wacom Intuos4 and Photoshop CS4

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April 16, 2009
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I can't get pen tilt working in Photoshop CS4. If I choose pen tilt option in brush shape for shape dynamics it works as if the control would be set to pen pressure sensitivity. Diagnostics in driver options show tilt is detected. Tilt only works for angle control in CS4. And I'm using the latest update for CS4. In spite of this, i tried my intuos4 in corel sketchpad and it works great, just as expected. It detects pressure, tilt angle and tilt direction. I don't know what could be the problem. Can someone confirm having tilt working in CS4?

I'd like to use tilt for roundness control.

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Correct answer Robert Enns

Robert - that is not how any of the pressure related settings work in Photoshop.

Tilt is just another pressure like mapping - it just changes things the same way pressure does, or angle, or speed, or direction, or any other tablet input.

What you are talking about isn't a bug, but a feature request to completely change the way brushes work in Photoshop.

Robert - that is not how any of the pressure related settings work in Photoshop.

Then how DO they work for goodness sake. Please, please explain what I must do to make tilt show up as an effect in PS. You still haven't once said here is a brush selection and settings. Make some strokes on a canvas with these settings at several tilt angles and you will see a difference.

Tilt is just another pressure like mapping - it just changes things the same way pressure does, or angle, or speed, or direction, or any other tablet input.

What you are talking about isn't a bug, but a feature request to completely change the way brushes work in Photoshop.

A feature request? To ask that an airbrush setting behave like an real airbrush?

You said it works just like it does in Painter. Either it does or it doesn't. And the airbrush setting most certainly does not in my trials.

You may feel frustrated but so do the rest of us who can't seem to make it work. And you aren't being the least bit helpful by saying "that's not the way it works." Give us a clear example where you see a difference (with settings to reproduce it)

We keep asking.

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Anonymous

Just wanted to add my name to the list of people that are saying tilt doesn't work in CS4. I have the latest version of both Photoshop CS4 and the drivers for my Intuos 4. Some (including Chris) may be mistaking the pressure sensitivity for the tilt function, because you generally press with less pressure as you tilt the pen. Make sure when you test it that you are pressing on the tip as strongly as you would with the pen upright.

Chris Cox

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Tilt has nothing to do with pressure. They are 2 separate inputs.

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Anonymous

I know that. I'm saying that when I map Pen Tilt to a brush setting, it acts as if I really mapped Pen Pressure to that setting. If you press on the tip with less pressure when you tilt the pen (which I assume most people would because of the angle of the pen), then it may look like Pen Tilt is working correctly when in fact it is not (at least on my computer, and on the computers of people who have this problem).

Try pressing on the tip as hard as you can while you tilt the pen - does the brush still behave as expected?

keenoxAuthor

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Let me get this straight. There are two components that are used under the same name: bearing and tilt itself. Bearing is the direction in which the pen points when it's tilted. Tilt refers to the angle that the pen and the tablet surface make toghether. What meloncholy. tested is bearing. Bearing works for me too, but tilt isn't detected properly. Please tell me if I wasn't clear enough. I'll post some figures to illustrate my message.

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Anonymous

Bearing is a generic term for off-angle, you are right, as I looked at what happened, it is actually rotation bearing, not tilt bearing, but again, the result was so miniscule that it was hard to see.

In Painter, it will simulataneously input the tilt, rotation and pressure bearings on the fly and it is readily apparent. Photoshop, just does not take advantage of what a WACOM tablet can do!

Ricky-T

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Just jumping in here. PSCS4 tilt works fine for me with Wacom drivers 6.1.0-6, and Photoshop 11.0.1, although i never tested before these updates as i rearly use the feature anyway.

If the problem lie with either Adobe or Wacom, it is said that it works for almost everyone. This said, maybe the people whom it doesnt work for have different situations to most others. Maybe other software packages have something in some settings globally stored on your computer that are affecting photoshop or the wacom drivers.

All i can suggest (although it is a pain!) is to uninstall both your wacom tablet and photoshop, then re-install, making sure you remebr to include all newest updates and drivers.

Also, when you uninstall wacom drivers, i was told by a wacom member to make sure you delete all wacom content from your computer, which uninstalling it doesn't do.

-quoting Wacom:- "Uninstall the driver, restart, search for perhaps remaining files, especially wintab*.* in SYSTEM32, also tablet*.* and wacom*.*. Delete those files."

(Goto: My Computer > Local Disk C: > WINDOWS > system32, and look for any wacom related files and Wacom say above.)

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meloncholy_

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I was having problems with this too, but I've got it working now I think. Here's a 'money shot' as requested.

I may have misunderstood, but it still doesn't work for me with the brush settings suggested by keenox (setting tilt to vary roundness instead of angle).

My original (and non-working) configuration was Photoshop 11.0 with Wacom driver 6.1.1-3 (Intuos4 M), running on Server 2008 x64. The Wacom control panel diagnostics thing showed tilt was working, but Photoshop seemed to disagree. I also had issues in Corel Painter - the brush would show the tilt angle correctly in the hover preview, but would draw vertically regardless.

Here's what I did to get tilt working. Not sure all steps are necessary, but I'll list them just in case.

Install Photoshop 11.0.1.
Remove my old tablet from the Wacom control panel.
Reinstall the Wacom driver (the same one) following this tip.

I now found Painter would work with tilt as it should, and that using the brush settings in the picture above also worked in Photoshop. I also don't get the "oh no you don't" warning triangles anymore when I choose tilt. I do wish the Photoshop brush preview would adjust its angle to match the tilt, though...

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Mama Shan

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While the bottom brush preview in the palette seems as it should be. I wonder if in the canvas you could draw a continuous stroke rolling the pen from tilt to upright to see if it gives variance? In other words so that it looks more like the preview box?

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Mama Shan

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Just thinking out loud here and wondering about this--there is also a control panel called Tablet PC for handwriting recognition in addition to the Wacom control panel...so I'm wondering if this could be causing the dysfuntion of some of the brush options?

keenoxAuthor

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Does tilt work fine with Photoshop CS4? I have the latest driver (6.11-3) installed and it doesn't work in cs4.

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Anonymous

tilt does not work for me either, but then I use CorelPainter for stuff like that.

keenoxAuthor

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I tried to contact support, but I didn't really manage to do so. I'm using the trial version of CS4 and as far as I understand Adobe offers support only for purchased products. Could someone give me some details for contacting tech support?

!!!!!!!!!!FOR ANYONE WHO HAS THIS PROBLEM!!!!!!!

LE: I did some research on my own. This is a problem of Photoshop CS4. I've tested CS2 and CS3 and they work properly. If you want tilt control you have to use versions prior to CS4.

keenoxAuthor

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Isn't there any solution for this?

I've tested the tablet on a Windows Vista 32bit with Photoshop CS2 and the tilt control for roundness worked very well.

I'm currently working on a Windows XP x64 with both Photoshop CS4 32bit and 64bit versions.

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Anonymous

Looking at your post on the wacom forums you could not be helped. Wacom told you they could not adjust their drivers and to go to adobe for help. Best bet is to call adobe support.

Chris Cox

Legend

Install the 11.0.1 update.

keenoxAuthor

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I wrote in the original post that i'm using the latest updates. So that doesn't solve anything.

LE: I did a forum search and read every relevant thread. I concluded that it's a fault of Adobe, as everyone complains about both tilt and rotation not working properly in Photoshop. What is more, i've tested the tablet myself in Corel SketchPad and it works flawlessly. That adds up to my conclusion. If I'm wrong please tell me the correct settings in Photoshop.

Oh... and i forgot to write. Before posting in this forum, I posted in the Wacom forum and they too said it is an Adobe related problem.

PS: When I'm using Opera, pressing enter adds a new line before, not after the current line, in the post form. What could be the problem?

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keenoxAuthor

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I also took my time today and tested my tablet in Illustrator CS4. It works wonderfully! Why can't Adobe implement the same options for Photoshop? Is it so hard to copy paste the code?

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Anonymous

There has been a lot of discussion on this. Do a forum search!

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