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APE 2021 and ACR 13.4

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September 5, 2021
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I have APE 2021.3 installed and wanted to upgrade ACR too. The actual ACR version as displayed by the settings function is 13.0.0.612.

I downoladed the new ACE 13.4 installer, run it and consequently run the exe. However, the ACR in APE remained unchanged.

What am I missing?

Kind regards,

Correct answer Glenn 8675309

ACR 13.4 is available for download for photoshop elements- It does require a little copy and pasting of one file after it's downloaded and installed.

The only file you need to be concerned with is Camera Raw.8bi.

Install ACR 13.4, copy the .8bi file and paste it here:

C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\Plug-Ins\Elements 19\File Formats

You may need to rename the .8bi file that may allready be there- just add old to the name and move it outta there- stash it someplace safe you can find.

Camera Raw plug-in installer (adobe.com)

It is a stripped down version of ACR found in Photoshop- but it should work fine for your camera.

The only file you need to be concerned with is Camera Raw.8bi.

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bruno27752037zran

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Buongiorno, io ho Photoshop Elements 2021 con camera raw 13.0.0.612 mentre dovrei avere il 13.1, come da lista Adobe, per aprire i file raw della mia Nikon Z62 su Mac Sequoia 15.6.1, quali passi precisamente devo fare per aggiornare ACR ?

Chiedo gentilmente una spiegazione semplice se possibile con eventuale link. Grazie infinite

Glenn 8675309

Legend

Download and install the latest Camera Raw version from https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/kb/camera-raw-plug-in-installer.html

Just download acr 14.5.

Quit all Adobe applications.

On macOS, double-click the .dmg file to mount it.

On Windows double-click the downloaded .zip file to unzip it.
(Windows might unzip the file for you.)

On macOS, double-click the .pkg file to start the installer.

On Windows, double-click the resulting .exe file to start the installer.

Follow the on-screen instructions.

Once installed successfully, close the installer window.

Navigate to the following folder:

On macOS: /Library/Application Support/Adobe/Plug-ins/CC/File Formats

On Windows: C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\Plug-Ins\CC\File Formats

Copy the Camera Raw plug-in (just the .8bi file) from the CC > File Formats folder that is mentioned in the above step.

Navigate to the following folder:

On macOS: /Library/Application Support/Adobe/Plug-ins/Elements<Version Number>/File Formats

On Windows: C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\Plug-Ins\Elements<Version Number>\File Formats

Replace the existing Camera Raw plugin in Elements<Version Number> folder with the plug-in that you copied earlier.

Glenn 8675309Correct answer

Legend

ACR 13.4 is available for download for photoshop elements- It does require a little copy and pasting of one file after it's downloaded and installed.

The only file you need to be concerned with is Camera Raw.8bi.

Install ACR 13.4, copy the .8bi file and paste it here:

C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\Plug-Ins\Elements 19\File Formats

You may need to rename the .8bi file that may allready be there- just add old to the name and move it outta there- stash it someplace safe you can find.

Camera Raw plug-in installer (adobe.com)

It is a stripped down version of ACR found in Photoshop- but it should work fine for your camera.

The only file you need to be concerned with is Camera Raw.8bi.

Walter_H

Legend

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Camera Raw plug-in installer (adobe.com)

It is a stripped down version of ACR found in Photoshop- but it should work fine for your camera.
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By @Glenn 8675309

Hello Glenn,

YOU ARE INCORRECT! The Camera Raw.8bi file that's downloaded via the link you provide IS in fact the file intended for use as the Camera Raw plug-in for Photoshop CC. It is NOT "a stripped down version of ACR found in Photoshop"! It is Photoshop Elements that limits what the plug-in will do.

Do a binary file compare and you'll find that it's not "a stripped down version of ACR found in Photoshop" - it is identical to the Photoshop CC ACR plug-in. Also, they have identical version numbers in Help>About Plugins>Camera Raw in both PS and PSE.

Here are the correct instructions for updating Camera Raw in Photoshop Elements: Update Adobe Camera Raw.

--Walter in Davie, FL

MichelBParis

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Not stripped down? This started to worry me!

I understand that the ACR in Elements lacks some functionality that is available to CC and Lightroom users. Wrong? I learned that from posts on WEB on the new features in ACR that I miss in my installation.

As the matter of fact, after installing 13.4 and duly placing the Camera Raw.8bi file, I have noticed NO EVIDENT CHANGE in respect to previous 13.0 ACR version except the updated version ID.

So, could be that the new ARC is not installed at all? on my Elements 2021? What can I expect from the new ACR in Elements?

Kind regards,

Not stripped down? This started to worry me!

I understand that the ACR in Elements lacks some functionality that is available to CC and Lightroom users. Wrong? I learned that from posts on WEB on the new features in ACR that I miss in my installation.

As the matter of fact, after installing 13.4 and duly placing the Camera Raw.8bi file, I have noticed NO EVIDENT CHANGE in respect to previous 13.0 ACR version except the updated version ID.

So, could be that the new ARC is not installed at all? on my Elements 2021? What can I expect from the new ACR in Elements?

Kind regards,

By @Tone42

There are several facts you are overlooking:

- The PSE version of ACR is really a subset of the features in the full Photoshop ACR (which offer very similar functionality to Lightroom). In short, it offers what is necessary to convert a raw file, not a number of editing tools which allow editing directly the raw data. Only the 'basic' chapters' are covered; many tools already available in the normal pixel editor are not there. Some say it's a 'stripped down' versions, other say 'a crippled' version which means the same. Is it normal for the 'consumer' version? The other side of the same question is "how much would you pay for the full versions and the immediate availability"?

- The ACR subset must be created (crippled) from the full one, which means it's coded later, often several months later.

- In most new ACR versions, the only new factor for PSE users is that newly issued camera raw formats are covered. It's a total waste of time to upgrade to 13.4 from 13.0, there is nothing new for most users. For owners of new cameras, the free solution has always been to use the dngconverter as soon as the full version is available.

- The 'update' by Adobe when a new PSE ACR version is ready must be made from the PSE menu. Downloading the full version is irrelevant for PSE.

Keep in mind that Adobe philosophy is clear:

- either you use a 'subscription' to a service allowing real time availability of updates by paying montly

- or you use a 'perpetual' license, paid once and for which the support is limited to possible updates for bug corrections for the current version. For the ACR new versions, Adobe may offer updates, that's not frequent. They even offered once an update for the previous version. So, new features and new camera support is generally postponed to the next yearly version of PSE.

The present discussion supposes we all understand we are dealing with a workaround only useful to owners of very new cameras. Hijacking the update process for the full ACR is possible and has been detailed several years back. The new factor is that Adobe themselves recently posted the manual process to support the recent cameras. That's important because in the past, similar manual process did cover the new cameras but created ulterior issues in the update of PSE itself. The workaround seems more reliable today.

Note:

I no longer find the Adobe tech doc, I am sur user another forum friend user will do it, thanks in advance.

Edit

Thanks Walter,

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop-elements/kb/camera-raw-update-not-available.html

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