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October 3, 2017
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Color changes from ACR 9.5 to PSE 14

  • October 3, 2017
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Hi -

When I open a RAW image in ACR 9.5 (through PSE 14) I can make all the changes I want in my color/exposure, etc. When I click "Open Image" so that it will open the image into PSE 14 directly, all of the colors are extremely muted and dulled. I have calibrated my monitor several times. I don't know how it could be the monitor though as I'm viewing the same image on the same monitor only seconds apart. I don't know what else I could change within ACR or PSE to make the colors appear the same.  Below shows the color differences - the right image is the screenshot of the ACR version. The left is that same image opened directly to PSE 14.

I hesitate to edit a bunch of photos and transfer to PSE for final adjustments not knowing which color option is the "correct" version. I would appreciate anyone's help in trying to figure this out.

Currently, I'm working on the ASUS ProArt monitor with the calibration set to Adobe RGB mode. (I have also calibrated it in "standard mode" and "sRGB mode" with both version producing the same effect of different colors represented in the ACR/PSE programs). Everything was calibrated with the Spyder5Pro. The image was shot with a Canon 60D, which is on the list of support through ACR. I'm not sure what other information would be useful.

Thanks in advance for any and all help!

Kerry

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MichelBParis
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October 3, 2017

kerryjm  wrote

Currently, I'm working on the ASUS ProArt monitor with the calibration set to Adobe RGB mode. (I have also calibrated it in "standard mode" and "sRGB mode" with both version producing the same effect of different colors represented in the ACR/PSE programs). Everything was calibrated with the Spyder5Pro. The image was shot with a Canon 60D, which is on the list of support through ACR. I'm not sure what other information would be useful.

Kerry

Can you also confirm the settings used in the menu 'Edit >> color settings' ? I am not familiar with that monitor; could you explain where you calibrate in "standard mode" or "sRGB mode"? I thought that the result of the calibraton with the Spyder would create a monitor profile which is neither of the former modes?

kerryjmAuthor
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October 3, 2017

Sure - thanks

Under "Edit" it is set to optimize for printing. The results stay the same whether I choose any of the other options before opening the ACR and transferring to PSE.

On my monitor I can choose the display to be set to "Standard" or "sRGB" or "Adobe RGB" or even "Theater" or a couple other modes. Mainly it changes my monitor in terms of different warmth settings before I calibrate. I usually have viewed things through the monitor in "Standard" which just seems to be a brightness level overall before calibrating.

Thanks for your help!

Kerry

MichelBParis
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October 4, 2017

kerryjm  wrote

Sure - thanks

Under "Edit" it is set to optimize for printing. The results stay the same whether I choose any of the other options before opening the ACR and transferring to PSE.

On my monitor I can choose the display to be set to "Standard" or "sRGB" or "Adobe RGB" or even "Theater" or a couple other modes. Mainly it changes my monitor in terms of different warmth settings before I calibrate. I usually have viewed things through the monitor in "Standard" which just seems to be a brightness level overall before calibrating.

Thanks for your help!

Kerry

Kerry, the settings to choose from "Standard", sRGB or "Adobe RGB", theater... are factory settings to offer you various 'tastes' of color rendition; such a choice is generally present on all TV sets, as well as choices for the audio settings. I very much doubt that those settings are related to the hardware calibration profile created by your Spyder.

Probably, the editor and the ACR module use different profiles, one with the Spyder calibrated profile, the other with the factoy setting. The 'result' shows pleasant (and most probably truer) colors, while the editor show 'duller' colors; that's what happens when your computer assumes the file has an sRGB common profile and the file is really an Adobe RGB one. In your case, the file you are seeing in the editor is an Adobe RGB file. That is the result of the ACR module checking your option to 'optimize for printing'. You can verify that the color profile is Adobe RGB (small dropdown menu on the left of the bottom bar just under your image window).

You should not use the factory settings, but the Spyder calibration profile... unfortunately, I don't know how to solve the problem in your own case . I hope other users may help you; I can suggest posting in a more specialized forum:

Retouching Forum: Digital Photography Review

Color management expert Andrew Rodney, very active there, has a wealth of tutorials in his own site.

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