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February 8, 2022
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Does Photoshop Elements 2022 install Creative cloud files?

  • February 8, 2022
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Brand new iMac M1 yesterday. I set it up as-is right out of the box to start as fresh as possible. I launched Safari and logged into my Adobe account to download Adobe Photoshop Elements 2022. After doing so, I now have a Creative Cloud symbol in my menu bar at the top right of the screen. Did Elements put it there?  I do have an active subscription to CC -- it will expire in March, as I chose not to renew -- but I did NOT download any of CC's apps on my new Mac; I only downloaded and installed Elements 2022.

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Greg_S.
Community Expert
Community Expert
August 5, 2022

I don't know this for sure but, based on a number of other posts I have seen where problems have been resolved by installing the CCD, the application is apparently used for license verification purposes.  As Michel has mentioned, the trial/beta feature available to some users in EO 2021 (saving to Cloud) is tied to the user's Adobe.com account.  It makes sense that this is one reason for installing the CCD app.

Participating Frequently
August 5, 2022

@Greg_S. wrote:

...installing the CCD, the application is apparently used for license verification purposes.

...(saving to Cloud) is tied to the user's Adobe.com account.  It makes sense that this is one reason for installing the CCD app.


Elements already had a "license verification" process. Of course, Adobe could have decided to save a few lines of code and remove that capability from PSE. The point remains; Adobe creates a need for more of the apps we have specifically chosen NOT to install/buy/use and completely fails to inform their customers. And, in my eyes, they simply decide to install links to those unwanted apps/services and then refuses to allow us to delete them.

 

BTW, I have read that "Save to Cloud" has been removed from the CC functions that are installed suripticiously.

MichelBParis
Legend
August 6, 2022
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...installing the CCD, the application is apparently used for license verification purposes.

...(saving to Cloud) is tied to the user's Adobe.com account.  It makes sense that this is one reason for installing the CCD app.


By @Greg_S.

Elements already had a "license verification" process. Of course, Adobe could have decided to save a few lines of code and remove that capability from PSE. The point remains; Adobe creates a need for more of the apps we have specifically chosen NOT to install/buy/use and completely fails to inform their customers. And, in my eyes, they simply decide to install links to those unwanted apps/services and then refuses to allow us to delete them.

 

BTW, I have read that "Save to Cloud" has been removed from the CC functions that are installed suripticiously.


By @xAirbusdriver

 

You mean:

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop-elements/using/save-to-cloud-termination.html?mv=affiliate&mv2=red

 

The important thing to understand is that nowadays, the single word 'CLOUD' is a kind of explosive, something which triggers all sorts of panic from the imagination! In our discussion, there is absolutely nothing common between 'save to Cloud' and 'Desktop Creative Cloud'. Ok, a storing place in the Internet provided by Adobe instead of OneDrive, Google, Dropbox...

And a software managing platform for the dozens of Adobe pro apps who were created and aggregated under the pleasing marketing name: Creative Cloud.

That's what explains why many (mainly non-pros) users opposed to the subscription model used by those pro apps won't hear the simple word 'Cloud'. Of course, Adobe marketing must be aware of that situation, and that results only in timid explanations and mentions of both the file storing space and the managing platform.

 

If the managing platform had another name similar to the old (obsolete) AAM Adobe Application Manager and if the 2GB space had been named differently, we could discuss those matters in a more relaxed manner.

 

As a Windows user, I am puzzled why you are finding many '.apps' everywhere in Macs recently. It seems that the various functions quoted as apps have no direct correspondents in Windows, and are ways for Apple to better manage security permission issues. However, I do find a similar trend as yours to be able to control each and every module or service like the numerous background tasks offered in a global package.

Well, whether you like it or not, softwares with multiple features and having to run in any kind of hardware and OS environment are not sold in 'kits'. Some feel they know enough to sort and choose only what they need. Good luck for them. What I see is that Adobe's choice in their formulas is on the contrary to offer more than you need to, starting with the Photographer's plan.

Walter_H
Legend
August 5, 2022

When I installed PSE 2022 on my laptop a few weeks ago, I noticed that early during the installation that the Creative Cloud Icon was the first to appear on my desktop.

--Walter in Davie, FL
VipinGupta
Adobe Employee
Adobe Employee
August 6, 2022

This should not happen with the latest installer available here: https://helpx.adobe.com/download-install/kb/photoshop-elements-downloads.html.

 

If you wish to remove CCD from your machine, please uninstall Elements 2022 and CCD, then use the latest installer from the above download page, it will only install Elements and not CCD.

 

Regards

Vipin

Participating Frequently
August 6, 2022

@VipinGupta wrote:

This should not happen with the latest installer available here: https://helpx.adobe.com/download-install/kb/photoshop-elements-downloads.html.

 

If you wish to remove CCD from your machine, please uninstall Elements 2022 and CCD, then use the latest installer from the above download page, it will only install Elements and not CCD.

 

Regards

Vipin


 

Thanks for the info, sir! 👌

My last download of the Elements Installer was Aug 4, 2 days ago. It did have less than 100 bytes difference in the istaller I downloaded back in Nov 23, 2021. So it is entirely possible that I could have avoided the latest problems if I had but waited a couple of days. Stranger things have happened, I guess.

 

However, I discoverer that the "Elements Auto Creations.app" has some preferences! 👍 Disabled a few things and I am no longer seeing the Notifications about it "quiting unexpectedly". I think I have also been able to stop the "PhotoShopServer could not be opened" Notifications! 👏

 

While I have, apparently, no control over what Adobe installs, I have been able to finally stop the useless Notifications and at least part of the resource wasting that the corporation forces on customers. Hope everyone has a cooler Summer! 😁

VipinGupta
Adobe Employee
Adobe Employee
February 22, 2022

Hi

 

Yes, CCD gets installed with Photoshop Elements 2022.

 

Regards

Vipin

John Waller
Community Expert
Community Expert
February 22, 2022

@VipinGupta 

 

Any reason why since it's not a Creative Cloud product?

MichelBParis
Legend
February 22, 2022
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@VipinGupta 

 

Any reason why since it's not a Creative Cloud product?


By @John Waller

@VipinGupta 

My guess is that the Elements team is not really at liberty to give the real reasons WHY the CCD (Creative Cloud Desktop) is now systematically installed  (Global marketing strategy). We would be happy though to  get answers to HOW this is implemented.

- for instance, is CCD systematically installed in Mac and Windows store versions?

- How does it work with users already having a CC subscription and CCD already installed?

- With PSE2021, the CCD was only available for a number of 'test' users (my case). With PSE2022, the CCD is still installed (I suppose with PSE, since it launchs without me having any Cloud subscription active). What about the feature of saving files to the Cloud in PSE2021?) I'll keep PSE2021 installed together with PSE2022 to keep the feature.

 

Thanks in advance for answering similar factual questions, and if possible, would it be possible to group those partial answers in a new tech doc?

 

Glenn 8675309
Legend
February 9, 2022

A creative cloud account can be a good thing- you can have one, yet not subscribe to anything. As John Waller mentioned one of the ways to "clear up some oddball installation issues" Zthe fix was to install the Adobe creative cloud app- and basically forget about it. 

I realize you know all the following, but others may not know what's in the app, and may be missing out. 


John Waller
Community Expert
Community Expert
February 8, 2022
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Did Elements put it there?

 

Could be. There seems to be a recent, unofficial requirement for the Cloud desktop app to be installed in order to successfully install and activate recent versions of Elements (at least 2019, 2020, 2021 and 2022).

 

Some people have struggled to complete the installation successfully until they have installed the Cloud deskop app. Seems odd given that Elements is not a Cloud subscription product.

Participant
February 9, 2022

Further research is telling me that because Photoshop Elements 2022 can work with Raw images, that it installs CC because Camera Raw is part of CC. 

John Waller
Community Expert
Community Expert
February 9, 2022

Plausible, though Camera Raw in Elements is different to Camera Raw in Photoshop/Bridge.

 

Plus Elements has worked with Raw for many years. The Cloud desktop app requirement is a recent development.