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March 19, 2022
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Elements 2022 Panorama Reposition

  • March 19, 2022
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I am trying to take 2 or more totally different images and join them together side-by-side to form one new image. In Elements 9, this was an extremely simple procedure starting with File>New.  You would create a Panorama, reposition the images to your liking, and save. In Elements 2022, I'm at a total loss. I do not see the answer in the manual nor can I find anything online.

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Jeff Arola
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May 18, 2023

In Guided Edit>Photomerge>Panorama when selecting Reposition uncheck Blend Images Together under Settings.

 

Then you'll get separate layers.

 

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May 18, 2023

Hello Jeff,

I had tried with Blended unticked, but I have just tried again.  I still get the message  "Some images could not be automatically aligned", but the in the next screen I can slightly see the underlying image (The underlying one is a little wider and I can see a a tiny bit of it).  But I am still lost with the next step.  I put the cursor into "move" context (it changes to a hand).  unfortunately when I then try to dragthe top image nothing happens.  I've tried with the left click down, and also the right click down as I drag.  I found instructions for a very old version it said to hold the space bar down as I drag, but all to no avail.  I'm doing this in the "Expert" tab.  Can you tell me how to drag?  Try saying that to a teenager! 

Greg_S.
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March 25, 2022

@99jon, in my quick experiments with the GE, it seemed to me that the GE was trying to line up the images as if they were a true panorama and not a collage.  I used the Playbill images from the OPs screenshot and the program seemed to recognize that they had similar borders and tried to line up one of the single images with borders from the other 2 images. It (mistakenly?) cut out the centers of the Playbills perhaps because it was only trying to line up the edges.  Hence, what remained was the transparent pixels from those other images that I think you are describing.  I didn't try every configuration of the GE so I may be entirely wrong about that.

 

So, in the following screenshots, you will see that I have attempted a Panorama GE collage of 3 very different images.  The GE threw up a message that some images could not be automatically alligned.  The net result was that the basketball image became the base with the lizard placed in the middle, and the third baseball stadium image was almost entirely cropped out and hidden as the background layer.  It was possible to resposition each of the layers in Expert Mode.

 

 

 

 

I think the bottom line is that the panorama GE is not intended for true collages, but allows for panoramic collages of the same scene with different images lined up to form contiguous pixels where possible, but not necessarily in a rectangular result.

99jon
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March 25, 2022

I am of the same opinion Greg. Hence my suggestion to add additional instructions to switch to expert mode. In older versions Pano Merge was always accessed from the Enhance menu so users were already working in Expert or Full Edit rather than Guided mode.

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March 29, 2022

I now cannot even get the procedure suggested by Greg S. to work. I don't know what I'm doing wrong, but I will tell you that I am angry that software engineers would take a procedure so simple and turn it into a total disaster.

There is no need for a ongoing forum about this. I feel total frustration. All I need this program for is to adjust an image with regard to brightness, saturation, etc. and to make panoramas and I am unable to do even this. If there is a way, I'm sure it's probably a half-hour job instead of 2 minutes.

Greg_S.
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March 21, 2022

As I said, I don't have Elements 9 on my machine any more, so I am trying to understand why you think it was easier in creating a collage in that version.

 

You may want to look at the Collage Creator in Elements 2022.  It can create a collage with various templates and with a maximum of 8 images.  You can select your desired photos in the Organizer and then go to Create>Photo Collage.  The program will automatically create something like the following.  Once the collage has been created, you can edit it further in the Collage Creator (by moving around and resizing the photos or changing the background), or in the Expert mode of the Editor where you can change everything.

 

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March 21, 2022

Greg,

I do appreciate your inputs and certainly your time. Perhaps it was familiarity but it was pretty simple. After scannning and sizing, you pressed something like New>Create Panorama>Reposition>Browse, selected as many files as you desired and they all showed up in the window. Then you just moved them around to your liking before saving. End result like this, but it could be 20 or more if you wanted. If something wasn't to you liking you could rearrange it in a few seconds. You didn't need the Organizer, just the main editing window

Jeff Arola
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March 21, 2022

Your referring to the Intertactive Layout in the Photomerge dialog?

here under Create a Photomerge panorama interactively (Photoshop Elements 10 and 11 only)

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop-elements/using/stitching-together-panoramas.html

Greg_S.
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March 19, 2022

I think you must be in the Quick Mode which is the default upon installation.  Change to Expert Mode and you will be able to move each image around since they will each be a layer in the new file.

 

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March 21, 2022

Thank you for your time and consideration. I have done this with some success. I just need to work on it. I am actually trying to make a composite of 11 disparate images. This was a snap in Elements 9, but I'm sure I'll get the hang of it with 2022.

Greg_S.
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March 19, 2022

What do you mean by creating a Panorama in Elements 9?  The earliest version I have on my machine is Elements 10.

 

Elements 2022 can create a side-by-side collage of two images just as you have described.  If you want to create a collage of two 6x4 images, you could create a new file measuring 12x4 and drag, drop and position the two photos from the photo bin to the new file.  If you really want to create a true Panorama, you will find tools in the Guided Edit>Photomerge panel:

As with most things Photoshop, there are multiple other ways to accomplish what you want.

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March 19, 2022

Thank you for your comments.

 

I recently upgraded frtom Mac Sierra to Big Sur. With Sierra, I was using Adobe Photoshop Elements 9.

 

I have created a new blank file and dragged 2 images from the Photo Bin into the window. The two images become superimposed one on top of the other. I am unable to separate them into a new side-by-side image.