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tempuseristemp
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March 11, 2017
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Elements Organizer 15 Slow

  • March 11, 2017
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I'm switching through photos in full screen mode and it takes 1 second to switch between current photo and the next.  Any idea why?  The lag is quite annoying when I'm trying to get to the 20th, 50th, or 100th photo.

My current machine config:

CPU: i7-5820K 12 CPU Threads  (mostly idle)

Ram: 64 GB (5GB used)

Disk: 4 x 500GB SSD (20% utiliztion aross 2TB)

Graphics: GeForce 970 (not editing photos so this should be more than enough)

Network: 100Mbps (shouldn't matter for local photos)

OS: Latest Windows 10 64Bit (clean install)

Asides from the perf issue in full screen mode the "Places" is also super slow.  It'll hang for 30-40seconds while CPU and Network is idle when zooming into the map.  I know it's using Google Maps but using maps in ordinary browser such as Chrome is super fast.  So it must be specific to how the web control is used in Elements Organizer?

It's quite unusable as it is.  Is there anything I can do to speed this up?

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    SaurabhGupta1
    Adobe Employee
    October 12, 2017

    The new version of Photoshop Elements is available now. There are some performance fixes, would suggest you to try the latest version once.

    Regards,

    Saurabh

    tempuseristemp
    tempuseristempAuthor
    Known Participant
    March 13, 2017

    Thanks, I'm using it to organize photos taken with my iPhone so they're all 7 or 8MB JPG files.  Pretty standard photos.  Just for comparison.  If I hold down the right arrow key Elements can zip through 20+ photos/second.  In full screen mode Elements can only go through 1 photo/second.

    I mainly got Elements for the organizer.  I don't do any photo editing asides from simple rotating and cropping.  Does Lightroom have a better photo organizer?

    MichelBParis
    MichelBParis
    Legend
    March 13, 2017

    From the description of your workflow, I am not sture either Elements Organizer or Lightroom will fit your needs (and expectations...)

    Those tools are created to use catalogs to store information about your photo files and to group them so that you can select and work on a few photos found from vey large libraries.

    Visual browsing is only a small part of your job, and it's generally not based on individual full screen views, but on page browsing.

    Most of the power of those tools lies in two principles:

    - you provide information (tags, captions, version sets, stacks, ratings, albums...)

    - the tool indexes that information to retrieve your data very quickly.

    For instance, I can retrieve all photos taken in a given year and with a given person and a part of a word contained in a caption in just a few seconds. Even with my low specs config and my big 60 000  items library. I can assign a given temporary keyword to all those 60 000 items in a few seconds, as much to remove it.

    Are you ready to take the time to

    - learn those sophisticated tools, especially Lightroom?

    - provide organizing information: selecting, culling, grouping and tagging?

    - Assess the quality of your images by taking the time to view them at various magnifications?

    tempuseristemp
    tempuseristempAuthor
    Known Participant
    March 13, 2017

    So my criteria for picking elements was to find an organizer that came closest to iPhone's photo app.  I needed to free up 50GB of space on my phone by transferring out the photos.  But I didn't want to dump it in a folder on Windows or Mac and call it a day.  I would never be able to find the photos I want or need in the future.  I already have 12,000 photos and adding more each day.

    So the features I wanted most from my iPhone was:

    1. Ability to find pictures based on location

    2. Ability to find pictures based on faces

    3. Ability to find pictures based on automated object and scene detection (e.g. find photos of beach, car, cat, etc)

    4. Ability to find pictures for a given time frame

    My workflow for viewing photos is as follows: (couple examples)

    1. Find a photos of "beach + bora bora".  Scan through matches for the one I want.

    2. Find a photo from Nov 2016 featuring a car.  Scan through matches for the one I want.

    Etc.

    So Elements Organizer came closest to what I needed so far.  The search works 80% of the time but scanning through the resulting matches in full screen is slow.  So I'm trying to either a) find a solution for this to make it faster or b) find a different organizer app that can do all of the above sans the performance issues.

    Editing photos isn't necessary for me.  Just the ability to find and view photos based on different criteria.  It's almost does what I want except it's slow.

    MichelBParis
    MichelBParis
    Legend
    March 12, 2017

    tempuseristemp  wrote

    I'm switching through photos in full screen mode and it takes 1 second to switch between current photo and the next.  Any idea why?  The lag is quite annoying when I'm trying to get to the 20th, 50th, or 100th photo.

    I have a very modest config compared to yours, and I don't feel any slowness in the full view mode.

    One second does not mean anything for me: the full mode automatically caches the next photo while the previous is shown, the next image is displayed instantly. Even if I use the filmstrip to select files at random, the images display in less than one second. Obviously if you want to click on the next button like a machine gun, not taking a glance at each photo, you are bound to choke the computer.

    Also, you don't say if you are viewing jpegs, psds or raw files. With my 32 MB RAF files and my ridiculous computer, I have to wait about four seconds.

    About your config:

    What's good for Elements, as far as I know:

    - RAM: yes, the more the better

    - number of cores: does not matter that much, a fast processor is more important

    - SSD: good of course, especially for the catalog and the scratch disk.

    - Graphics: practically never used.

    - Network: problems in many posts similar to yours. But your photo files are local?

    I can't comment on your 'Places' problems, I don't use geotagging.

    It's quite unusable as it is.  Is there anything I can do to speed this up?

    One suggestion, you could test a trial version of Lightroom. You have a wonderful config for that software. The advantage I see is that it is optimized for raw files and non-destructive, parametric editing; that requires a lot of power to display original files with all their edit commands immediately; the use of full size previews makes browsing very efficient. That said, take the time to browse the Lightroom forums: you'll see a number of complaints about Lightroom slowness....

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