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Inspiring
June 16, 2020
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Explanation of PSE2020's Save As screen color profile?

  • June 16, 2020
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PSE2020, Windows 10.

When I Save As (usually in jpg) a processed image, I note the following in the PSE Save As screen: The Color box is checked and it has ICC Profile as sRGB, and just below that is IEC 61966-2.1.  As I lack a proper understanding, I'd appreciate knowing what all this means.  Also, although I know that my calibrated monitor (Cell U2312HM) can't show all the RGB colors, I still would like to use RGB...but I don't know its present relationship to what appears to be defaulted in the Save As screen. Thanks.

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Correct answer MichelBParis

However, there is a recommendation from CameraErgonomics blog (very often referenced by users of my FZ1000...http://cameraergonomics.blogspot.com/2014/08/setting-up-fz1000-part-3-setup-and-rec.html😞 "Color Space Set this to Adobe RGB. The camera will automatically revert to sRGB with JPG capture."  So, I ask: Does setting to aRGB make any difference when shooting in RAW?


 "Color Space Set this to Adobe RGB. The camera will automatically revert to sRGB with JPG capture."

What does it mean? I suppose that describes the various settings of your particular camera. Some can let you choose between both color spaces for jpegs, others only sRGB.

If you shoot raw, the raw data has no color profile. The values of each photosite only display the intensity of light, not RGB values. You can choose if you want the raw conversion to produce either of those color spaces. In most converting softwares including Lightroom and The full Photoshop ACR, there is a menu setting; in Elements the menu is not in the ACR dialog, your choice is read from your optimization choice in the editor. If you shoot raw plus jpeg, your camera setting applies to the jpeg version. 

 

An extreme simplification:

- for peace of mind and maximum compatibility, follow a full sRGB workflow

- for a wider color space especially for printing, shoot raw (or choose aRGB if your camera allows it), set your optimization to aRGB (for prints) in the Eliments editor settings. In LR or Photoshop ACR, you can also opt for a still wider color space, Prophoto. The danger is that the wider the space is, the bigger are the color distorted if the color space is mistaken for the common sRGB.

 

Anyway, to get good color and compatibility, there is no other way than to use an hardware calibrator puck for your display.

 

 

 

 

 

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MichelBParis
Legend
June 27, 2020

I am a bit late, but I just found the two helpful links about color management in PSE:

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop-elements/kb/color-management-settings-best-print.html

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop-elements/kb/print-faq-photoshop-elements.html

You may have a way to bookmark them, otherwise you can access them from the 'Resources' menu on the panel on the right of this forum. Submenu Troubleshooting, and then 'Color management for best prints'.

 

You can get those links together with other help docs by simply typing 'color management' in the text input line of the home screen.

 

Also, there is a dedicated Adobe user to user forum dedicated to color management, with the best experts around:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/color-management/bd-p/Color-Management?page=1&sort=latest_replies&filter=all

 

 

Greg_S.
Community Expert
Community Expert
June 16, 2020

A photo file can have an embedded color profile.  I believe that is what the Adobe Save As dialog is showing.  The following dialogs appear in the Editor and Organizer Edit>Color Settings menus.  They explain a little about what choices are available in Elements.

 

hatstead
Inspiring
June 16, 2020

There is another variable, i.e. the printer.

Edit>color settings>Optimize for computer screens is the preferred option for PSE settings.

For the printer, Color Handling: Printer manages colors.

 

Inspiring
June 21, 2020

OK, let's see if I got it. I have been using PSE set Optimize color for computer screen...which appers to be the proper setting for computer viewing.  And, if I intend to print the image I should  use Optimize for printing.  However, let me then ask: what if I have an image that was processed under Optimize for computer screen, but later decide that I want to print it?  Do I have to re-process, or what? Thanks again for your help.

99jon
Legend
June 16, 2020

sRGB is the standard for most computer monitors and websites. Some People use Adobe RGB if they print their own images as it has a slightly larger color gamut.