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lindaf62080553
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July 7, 2020
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Import all from Lightroom to PSE - previous edits?

  • July 7, 2020
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I'm thinking of migrating from an old stand alone version of Lightroom to PSE (because I don't want the subscription version!!). I've downloaded the trial version of PSE to see how I get on with my 28,000 photos. The question I have is what happens to the edits that have been done in Lightroom? If I include the sidecar files then I get the metadata but what happens to edits please? Will I just get the original files, or the latest edits losing the original? I'm talking mostly jpegs rather than RAW. Thanks very much for any assistance.

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MichelBParis
MichelBParis
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July 9, 2020

I am coming back:

I have submitted a bug/suggestion in the feeback forum

https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/elements-acr-and-update-thumbnails-for-jpegs

Please vote for this suggestion to give it more weight.

 

Edit:

I have edited that bug report to indicate that the lack of thumbnail updates is not only linked with the original question of this discussion: it also lacks when editing jpegs from the ACR version of Elements, not only from LR/PS. So, clearly a bug for PSE users who are invited to vote on this topic in the feedback forum.

99jon
99jon
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July 7, 2020

The only way to get back to the original is to go back into Lightroom Develop module and click the re-set button or click the first import state in the history panel. I don’t expect you will need to do this very often but it remains an option.

MichelBParis
MichelBParis
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July 7, 2020

I have just tested with jpegs with the usual parametric edits in LR.

The shortcut CRTL S does write those editing settings as well as the other metadata (keywords ...) into the metadata header of each jpeg file, without changing anything to the pixels.

(The result is the same as editing a jpeg in camera raw. You can see the camera raw data in the information panel of the organizer or in the info panel of the editor.)

 

When I import those jpegs into a PSE catalog, they open ok in camera raw with the LR settings. You can go back to the original state, for instance removing crop or going back from monochrome to color. Same behaviour as when I edit jpegs in ACR and simply click 'Done'.

 

However, I am puzzled with the fact that the thumbnail refuses to update... Does it work like this for you?

 

Of course, the PSE ACR settings are only a selecton of those available in LR or the full ACR, but I can change those edits if needed.

 

Another solution for jpegs would be to save them as DNGs from LR (which keeps the correct thumbnail).

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lindaf62080553Author
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July 7, 2020

Currently having a nightmare with this, thumbnails are not updating as far as I can see also, which would explain some of the problems then! This isn't being helped by me having spent years in Lightroom (can use it blindfolded..:-)), and knowing nothing about PSE. I'm importing with Metadata, but preumably need to use the edit element of PSE to 'revert' back to the original if wanted? Very intersting to see the tip about saving to DNG, thanks. Also not sure about the implications of having the 'created' date the date of import into PSE.

 

I think to be fair to PSE and the very helpful and knowlegable people here, I need to first spend a week or so learning PSE basics, then see if I can achieve what I want from it. Such a shame Adobe don't provide reverse migration. If I'm honest, I prefer the sidecar method that Lightroom uses rather than several versions of the same file which I think PSE does. Thank you so much for your help, if I do end up using PSE it'll be because of the support here. I'll disappear for a while in an attempt to educate myself before being dismissive......

99jon
99jon
Legend
July 7, 2020

For jpegs you should be able to save the settings in the Lightroom catalog to files. Try with a single folder of images to test. Press Ctrl+A (Cmd+A) to select all items in the folder and from the Lightroom menu choose:

Metadata >> Save Metadata to Files (Ctrl+S or Cmd+S)

Then use the Organizer menu:

File >> Get Photos & Videos >> From Files & Folders

Navigate to your folder, select all and click open or get media .

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lindaf62080553Author
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July 7, 2020

Gosh, thanks for such a swift response. Do you know if I'll get an original jpeg plus the one with the amendments? I'll try to experiment later today when I get to my PC. I imported some files yesterday and thought I'd included the metadata but it looked as though I had the original files. I'm greedy and want both!! I'd hate to lose the original file, but also I don't want to lose the considerable amount of changes I've made over the years also. Thanks for your help once again.

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