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February 24, 2021
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PSE 2021 extremely slow upon launch

  • February 24, 2021
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I recently upgraded from Elements 2014 to the latest version.  When I open a new file to edit, I cannot perform any functions for a fully minute.  After that, everything works fine however.  I never encountered this issue with previous versions of PS Elements before.  It it because this version is now cloud based?

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Phil Pickering
Legend
March 7, 2021

Hi Cary,

 

After you've chosed the Hand tool, quit Photoshop Elements, then restarted it, what is the shape of the cursor while your machine hangs for a minute or so?

 

Also, just in case it still has something to do with the Crop tool, you might want to turn off Auto Show Tool Options. It's in the little dropdown menu on the right-hand side of the Tool Options pane.

 

And try starting the Photoshop Elements Editor up on its own (i.e. not opening an image at the same time):

 

- from C:\Program Files\Adobe\Photoshop Elements 2021\PhotoshopElementsEditor (just double-click the app name)

- from the Photoshop Elements Home Screen (click on the Photo Editor button)

- from the Photoshop Elements Organizer (Editor > Photo Editor in the Task Pane along the bottom of the screen)

 

If the Editor doesn't hang when started in any of the above ways, try opening an image by double-clicking on the blank workspace to get to the Open dialog, navigate to the image you want to open, then double-click on it.

cary5FD2Author
Participating Frequently
March 7, 2021

IT WORKS!!  Someone earlier suggested I try opening PSE without the internet.  I finally tried that just now by disconnecting my CAT 5e cable, and opening PSE the way I normally do.  Eureka!  It works just like it should.  Early on I suspected it had something to do with this Creative Cloud junk trying to phone home?  I only say "junk" because it wasn't associated with my earlier versions and I don't intend to use it.  I couldn't uninstall it without uninstalling PSE 2021 first, which proved to me that they were tied together somehow.  Maybe not "bundled together" but still reliant on each other somehow.  Now the trick is, can I turn this feature in settings somehow since I can't just uninstall it?

Participant
March 26, 2023

This worked for me too. I disconnected ethernet (myaccess to internet) and presto no more lag time for menus to work. Thanks for the tip. At least now I know what the issue is.

Greg_S.
Community Expert
Community Expert
March 7, 2021

ACR=Adobe Camera Raw.  This is the editor that pops up if you send a raw file to the main Photoshop Elements Editor. 

Greg_S.
Community Expert
Community Expert
March 7, 2021

Are you talking about the ACR crop tool?  There is a known issue with slow performance in ACR using the crop tool since the recent update to Elements 2021.  Even if you are talking about the regular Editor crop tool, the added weight of the crop previews may be slowing things down.  So, definitely make sure that you have changed tools (say to the move tool) before opening your next photo and see whether it makes a difference.  If it does, and you are not talking about the ACR crop tool, I would suggest disabling Crop Pre-selection in the Edit>Preferences>General tab.

 

Please report back what you find.

cary5FD2Author
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March 7, 2021

I don't know what ACR is, but I think you're right as far as it being the crop tool icon.  I deselected it under preferences, and switched the cursot to the hand.  Still no better unfortunately.

Phil Pickering
Legend
March 5, 2021

Cary,

 

Going out of my comfort zone here... but like Michel has alluded to above, most users (especially Windows users) have unique hardware setups, both in terms of individual components and how they are combined together to form the whole system. As such, trying to identify which component may be the culprit in this situation might take some time.

 

First off, disconnect from your network and see if that stops the annoying delay before being able to work in Photoshop Elements. I seem to remember someone having a very similar problem when using a NAS device.

 

Also, you casually mentioned in a previous reply, that you have RAID set up on your machine. Is this RAID 0 or RAID 1?  I have very little experience of RAID, but is there a way of temporarily pausing the mirroring of one disk to the other in RAID 1? If so, I'd have a look at that as maybe being the source of your problem.

 

Sorry if these seem like shots in the dark, but like I explained above, without knowing your unique hardware set up or being in a position to replicate it, you're going to have go through a process of elimination to narrow down your field of potential suspects.

cary5FD2Author
Participating Frequently
March 6, 2021

My SSDs are my C drive and are set up in RAID 0 (striped) for speed.  All of my images and other data are stored on separate spinny drives.  When I slect an image, it loads immediately, so I don't think there's anything wrong with those drives.  I probably should have stated at the beginning that I began have this issue with my older version of PSE 14.  It had run perfectly for several years until this new issue cropped up.  I had hoped that installing a new version of PSE would resolve the problem.  I only run a single (noise reduction) plugin.  I have not installed that plugin with this new version of PSE 2021.  My next step it a Windows repair -- based on the assumption I must have changed a setting somehow that is now causing me problems.  As stated before, once I wait for a minute (or longer), everything works just fine.

MichelBParis
Legend
March 6, 2021

My SSDs are my C drive and are set up in RAID 0 (striped) for speed.  All of my images and other data are stored on separate spinny drives.  When I slect an image, it loads immediately, so I don't think there's anything wrong with those drives.  I probably should have stated at the beginning that I began have this issue with my older version of PSE 14.  It had run perfectly for several years until this new issue cropped up.  I had hoped that installing a new version of PSE would resolve the problem.  I only run a single (noise reduction) plugin.  I have not installed that plugin with this new version of PSE 2021.  My next step it a Windows repair -- based on the assumption I must have changed a setting somehow that is now causing me problems.  As stated before, once I wait for a minute (or longer), everything works just fine.


By @cary5FD2

What are you expecting for the time to open the editor directly from a shortcut and bypassing the welcome screen?

For me, with a hardware setup just above minimal specs and no SSD, that takes about 45 seconds. I have disabled all automatic features in the organizer. Greg has reported much better starting time with a much stronger hardware.

 

 

Greg_S.
Community Expert
Community Expert
February 25, 2021

When I open a new file to edit, I cannot perform any functions for a fully minute.  After that, everything works fine however.  I never encountered this issue with previous versions of PS Elements before. 

It is possible that additional media analysis is taking place in the Organizer.  Although this is only supposed to take place in the background when nothing else is happening on your computer, I have found that the activity can have some effect on the Editor.  I would be interested if you see any change in behavior if you turn off all media analysis by unchecking all of the boxes in the Edit>Preferences>Media Analysis dialog.  Reboot your computer and then see what happens when you open the Editor.

cary5FD2Author
Participating Frequently
February 26, 2021
Thanks for the help, but I don't seen "media analysys" anywhere under
edit>preferences.



Cary "Smitty" Smithson
Phil Pickering
Legend
February 26, 2021

Hi Cary,

 

Greg is talking about Edit > Preferences > Media Analysis in the Elements Organizer (not the Editor) 🙂

Glenn 8675309
Legend
February 24, 2021

PSE is not cloud based, it's about the only program from adobe that is not.

How old is your computer? 

When I start the editor from the fancy home screen, it takes 6 seconds to fully open and load.  Loading an image to edit?  virtually instant (I do has a ssd).