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RAW file export as a 16 bit Adobe RGB 1998 color space file.

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January 4, 2023
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Is it possible to open a DNG RAW file and save the edited file as a 16 bit file with an Adobe RGB color profile using Elements 2022?

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Jeff Arola

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As far as i can tell, photoshop elements 2020 (pse ver 18) is the last version that allowed one to

choose your sRGB or aRGB color space from the editor, with the menu Edit > Color Settings.

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Peter268545881jtpAuthor

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Thanks Jeff,
I'm looking for a version that will import a file in RAW (or DNG) ProPhoto
16 bit and export a file in 16 bit mode with at least the aRGB color space
(preferably ProPhoto RGB) as well as handle a Canon Printing plug in
program and hopefully Elements 2020 might do the job if that is the case
but the Nikon or Sony RAW file editor version would be too old for their
latest camera model's RAW files.

MichelBParis

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The normal PSE editor (all versions) can open and work with files in 16 bits with limitations: no layers, missing support for some detail tools, but practically all 'global' adjustments and most filters.

Since raw files don't yet have any color space, the problem is in the conversion process when opening the edited raw file in the photoeditor. If you open a Prophoto or aRGB file produced by another converter, the editor can open and edit in Prophoto if you want. The color space is automatically recognized and you can convert to aRGB or sRGB if you want.

So, the solution to avoid upgrading to the Photographer's plan (PS + LRC) would be to use an alternative raw converter, either the one supplied by your camera maker or an external one (there are free ones, but I have no experience with them).

MichelBParis

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Is it possible to open a DNG RAW file and save the edited file as a 16 bit file with an Adobe RGB color profile using Elements 2022?

By @Peter268545881jtp

There is a bug in recent PSE versions.

The normal behaviour with raw files (so: with DNG) is:

- to choose the bit depth with the bottom menu

- to choose your sRGB or aRGB color space from the editor, with the menu Edit > Color settings. Optimizing for print in the editor tells the ACR module to output an aRGB space, otherwise (for computer screens), it outputs an sRGB one.

Keep in mind that raw files don't have yet a color space defined.

The current behaviour is that the bit depth choice still works as expected, but the choice of space no longer works as before, you can't get anything but sRGB !!!

Of course, you can always convert from sRGB to aRGB later in the pixel editor, but you have lost all the colors outside the sRGB space.

So the answer to your question is that you can create a 16 bits aRGB file from a raw file, but only within the available colors of sRGB.

I have reported this bug several times in this forum, and never got any answer from Adobe.

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Peter268545881jtpAuthor

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Thank you very much for the prompt response. Your findings are exactly the
same as mine are with Elements 2022.
Do you know when Adobe last produced a version of Elements that didn't have
this problem?

Kind regards,
Peter

MichelBParis

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Peter,

The latest version I still have on my computer before PSE2022 is PSE12 and it works as expected.

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