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ShaggyAD2018
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September 20, 2022
Question

4k 29,97fps footage plays strangely slowly in Source + Program monitors (Premiere 22.6 + new laptop)

  • September 20, 2022
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I am a bit new to this version of Premiere 22.6 so I don't know if I misleft something when I create the proyect.

 

First of all, I'm editting in a fresh new Lenovo Legion 5i Pro with 32Gb DDR5, Nvidia 3070 and a Intel 12700h processor. So, I don't think that the lack of processing power of my laptop is the issue here.

 

I have tried to create several types of "New sequence" according with the parameters of my footage: 4k 29,97fps with square pixels.

 

I have tried to use "New sequence" created from presets, I have tried created them from "Custom" new sequences, I have tried to create a new sequence with the "Drop footage over the new item button" method to make sure that the sequence has the exact same parameters as the original footage. No luck. It doesn't seems to show any "drop frames" issue or else, it only plays... "improperly slowly"!

 

And no matter if I choose "Full resolution" or "1/2" or "1/4" or "1/8" neither in the Source monitor or the Program monitor. It always plays exactly the same, obviously at 1/8 it shows more pixelated than at full resolution, but it always plays as strangely slowly, no matter the playing quality.

 

What I have done wrong? I mean, it's a quite powerfull machine, it uses the 3070 and it is properly enabled the "Use Nvidia Acceleration Engine" or "whatever the name is" thing. What's wrong?

 

I play the footage (from a Sony PXW-70 with the 4K pack) in the Sony Catalist Browse program and it plays flawlessly fine. So, fine footage, fine laptop, but it doesn't plays properly at Premiere 22.6!

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Warren Heaton
Community Expert
Community Expert
September 24, 2022

@ShaggyAD2018 wrote:

 

I have tried to use "New sequence" created from presets, I have tried created them from "Custom" new sequences, I have tried to create a new sequence with the "Drop footage over the new item button" method to make sure that the sequence has the exact same parameters as the original footage.

 


 

While "New Sequence from Clip" works with just about any file format that Premiere Pro supports, for the purposes of editing it's meant to be used with an intermediate format like ProRes or DNx.  

R Neil Haugen
Legend
September 24, 2022

That camera creates XAVC-S files which are encoded in long-GOP format. In other words, it only records a complete frame every 14-30 frames, and in-between records 'data charts' with the 1) pixels that have changed since the last complete frame ( i-frame); 2) the pixels that will have changed by the next i-frame; or 3) both.

 

So the program has to decode up to 30 "frames" of media just to playback the currently displayed frame. Constantly.

 

And unless your computer hardware has a specific internal hardware setup for H.264/5 decoding, and one that fairly well matches with the camera chip used in your camera, your computer can struggle with that media.

 

There's switches in the Preferences for hardware encoding and decoding. Try setting or unsetting those, some work better one way or the other. Past that, creating proxies in Cineform, ProRes, or DNx may be a very useful tool. They will play back beautifully.

 

@RjL190365 is the other user around here that knows this stuff cold.

 

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
Community Expert
September 24, 2022

Interestingly I didn't perceive the question as being playback-related, but obviously that would be the first thing to be aware of. My mind went to the literal issue of slow playback of certain media.

Community Expert
September 24, 2022

Hey there. I haven't encountered this before, specifically, and haven't worked with this camera. In part I just wanted to bump this thread to see if you had gotten anywhere on it. The one thing I have seen that sounds similar is from clips downloaded from social media sites that might play fine in a video player, but there is something about the metadata of the file that Premiere cannot read properly. I wouldn't expect that behavior with a clip coming from a camera, but if you're interested in testing a workaround you can download the transcoding software Shutter Encoder and try doing a Rewrap of one of your source clips, even back into the same container. This can refresh the metadata and maybe that has Premiere reading it properly?  

 

Have you tried a different Premiere version as well?