Adding LUT's To Premiere

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Hello Everyone.I purchased a LUTs Package from " Ground Control ", The Instructor explaining to add the Lots from the Looks Panel Inside the Premiere.At: 4:40 Time In this video he is explaining that It's better to add the Lots from the Creative- Looks Panel, therefore, If you go to Basic Correction, you can adjust your Image before It Hits the LUTs. https://groundcontrolcolor.com/pages/how-to-install-luts I got some more LUTs from another company, and the Instruction explains to add the LUTs Into Premiere Pro CC- Lumetric-LUTs-Technical folder,Therefore you can open the LUTs from your Basic Corrections Panel.I have Magic Bullet Collection, what If I want to add the Looks from Magic Bullet, and apply the LUTs from the Looks Panel, Is that OK?Or It's better to add the LUTs from the Basic Correction Panel, and add your Desire Looks from either Creative Panel, or from the Magic Bullet Looks Panel?Also, I noticed with some Clips, Color Grading without LUTs looked better.Thank you very much.

R Neil Haugen · Accepted Answer

Mr. Neil.Inside Common Folder, I created Two folders, Technical and Creative folders. I noticed, If I copy Paste all the LUTs Into Technical Folder, inside Premiere, the LUTs appear Inside the Basic Corrections- Input LUT Panel. And If I copy paste all the LUTs Inside the Creative folder, Inside Premiere the LUTs appear Inside the Creative- Look Pannel. You told me never to use the LUTs from Basic Pannel. So Technically, do I have to copy Paste all the LUTs Into Creative Folder only?I am assuming that the Creative Folder Is If I want to copy past any Looks ??If you are shooting for example with Canon Cinestyle, or Sony S-Log's, Do you add any LUTs?Thank you very muchI wouldn't say 'never' apply LUTs from the Basic tab ... but it's not a particularly safe place to do so. IF something is clipped by the LUT, you'd then have to add say an RGB Curves effect 'above' Lumetri in the ECP to bring the data back in place. And ... even if it doesn't clip, you may not have an optimal melding of the media & LUT.I occasionally will use the Basic tab folder just to play with it. But ... I put everything I really use in the Creative folder.I work a range of media, testing all sorts of things, or working on jobs. If needed for working with camera corrective LUTs, I do park them in the Creative folder.For organization purposes, I do rename them ... that list will be in "computerese" alpha-numeric order. So remember about numbers ... "190" will appear before "20". Unless you use the same number of characters in all numbers. So if you use numbers, use either all in two-character form ... 01, 04, 19, ... or three-character form ... 001, 026, 345.Numbers come before letters in computer-a/n work. So if you name say all corrective camera LUTs with a one-digit number, you have ten (counting zero!) different options for base camera separation. Say all your Canon "style" LUTs start with the number 0, all your Sony are maybe 4- ... and on.Then have the name of the LUT. So it could be "1 Canon Cine1", 1 Canon Cine2", "4 S-log1", "4 S-log2" and on.Then general corrective LUTs start with a 2. "Feel" LUTs with 3-9.This way you can quickly scroll to the LUTs you need at the moment.Neil

R Neil Haugen · Answer

First ... it matters where you store your built/acquired LUTs ... do NOT EVER put them in the Premiere/LUTs/Creative or Technical folders with the included ones. PERIOD. Here's a chart with the appropriate locations, and note, you need to create the Technical and Creative folders at the end of this folder-tree yourself.

You can create a shortcut to those folders on your desktop to make it easy to go in and add/rename/remove them.

Pr will add the LUTs from those folders into the drop-down lists of the Basic (technical) and Creative (Creative) tab LUT slots. They will also be "known" to AfterEffects and Media Encoder from those locations.

Next ... Casey or whoever from GroundControl had good advice about using tech correction LUTs for say Log media in the Creative tab slot. Why? LUTs are "dumb math" ... they hard-clip anything outside their built-in points. Log correcting LUTs are built under Ideal situations, perfect lighting/contrast/color-balance. Real-world clips coming in ... aren't nearly so perfectly shot in-camera.

So all other apps and all major teachers assume that the corrective LUT will be placed in the 'chain' and the individual clips "trimmed" for blacks/whites/contrast/saturation with controls applied/processed prior to the LUT.

In Lumetri's Basic tab, that Input LUT slot is processed before the trimming controls ... that's just wrong. I've had discussions with the engineers about this numerous times, and maybe someday they'll fix that.

BUT ... using a tech LUT in the Creative tab slot is perfect application of the resources. Add the LUT, go to Basic to adjust how it looks in scopes & monitor. Then go on in other tabs to do further work on the clip.

Or add another Lumetri instance in the Drop-down list at the top of the Lumetri tab for the next step of your grading workflow.

I would use the Magic Bullet LUTs/Look files from the Creative tab, personally.

And yes ... many clips are not helped by a LUT ... and don't need one. LUTs are dumb math, and 'fix' certain things. They can be used to add an overall feel or "lool" to a scene also. But never rely on LUTs to do something you don't know how to do without them.

Neil

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