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June 3, 2017
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Adobe did not listen to my feature request but BMD did!

  • June 3, 2017
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA1m6jeTf_M

Above is a link of using markers in DaVinic Resolve. Below is my marker request for Adobe. If you watch both videos it lets you know Adobe is not really doing much these days. Sad but true  :   (

https://youtu.be/WNi224djHbQ

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    R Neil Haugen
    Legend
    June 3, 2017

    The PrPro team (which is only one small part of "Adobe") has added a number of things recently ... marker improvements though not being one of them. Also, I would note, there's been a change in "management", as Patrick Palmer is the head of Editing now (PrPro and some allied apps, something like that) and the previous program manager is doing something else. I think there'll be some changes in how things are done. I've seen some things that are very, very different in the way the development team and upper management are relating with PrPro clients, which is very heartening.

    That marker request you made is interesting, if a bit rambling. Looks like the way I always start something like that ... before I edit myself down and re-arrange things.

    It seems your basic request is a quick way to make subclips from multiple selections of a clip, and using Markers is great because you can set different colors for ease of sorting. Spiffy idea.

    One can go down a clip in say Source, hit I ... then O then Shift-O to make sure one is still "in" that selection, Ctrl-U to make a subclip, play on ... I/O Shift-O & Ctrl U ... rinse & repeat. But you don't get the color-marked sections on the clip in the Source monitor. Just subclips in the bin.

    Or one can play a sequence, hit the M for Marker at each in/out point while playing ... then go back to the first marker via shortcuts hit I, Shift-M then O to set the Out at that marker, Ctrl-U ... Shift-M to next marker, I, Shift-M, O, Ctrl-U ... and on down making subclips of each pair of markers. But again, you get subclips but not marked sections of the timeline in "ranges". With a note.

    The only way one can do what you're asking that I can find, is hit the M key to put markers on both in & out points you want, then ... in the Markers panel ... scrub the end point of the first of each pair to the in point time of the next marker. Then delete the second marker.

    Gets it done, but ... not quite as spiffy. In Audition you can simply select adjoining markers and "Merge" them into a range. That's what PrPro would need to be able to do this.

    If you could "merge" marker pairs into a range ala Audition, would that fill your request?

    Neil

    Everyone's mileage always varies ...
    Andy 1968Author
    Inspiring
    June 4, 2017

    BMD implemented what I wanted into it's DR software. Adobe's markers have gotten better but Adobe needs to bring their A-Game. Like others have stated I may have to drop Adobe for BMD. Adobe should start thinking about dropping the price of the CC to $14.95 a month or even $19.95 a month because DR is getting better and better at an exponential rate and the price keeps dropping. 

    R Neil Haugen
    Legend
    June 5, 2017

    The world keeps changing, doesn't it?

    I was one of the ones who cheered when PrPro & SpeedGrade were intially "linked" together ... and very expressively disappointed when the link was dropped. Lumetri has some nice things, but a grading app ... it's not. And Sg seems barely breathing at this point, most people I know feel it's only time before it gets an EOL notice.

    I would note that the person now running Digital Editing for Adobe products ... has changed recently. Patrick Palmer, one of the two creators of Iridas which became SpeedGrade on acquisition by Adobe, is back as a Program Manager for Digital Editing (PrPro) ... and I got to talk with him for a bit at NAB. I look forward to seeing what he can do ... his ideas & whole concept of how to relate with the user base is very different than what we've become used to from PrPro.

    And yes, he seems very aware of Resolve ...

    Neil

    Everyone's mileage always varies ...