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Michael Grenadier
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January 14, 2023
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Any advantage to migrating a large complex project to productions?

  • January 14, 2023
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So I'm wrangling the postproduction on a large music documentary project.  We have at least 20 tb of media on a hardware raid (with plenty of extra space available) most of it 4K with probably at least 30 inteviews shot with 2 cameras and several performances with 3 or 4 cameras. I've already generated prores proxies for this material and created multicamera clips for all of this material and created sequences with the multicamera clips for each interview and transcribed each sequence with timecode referencing these prebuilds...  And we've already imported extensive archival footage with a variety of formats.   The client will be importing more camera original today (not sure how much) and I'll be setting up the generation of proxies and synching material tomorrow.  

 

It's been a few months since I worked on the project onsite but I seem to remember we're working on an Intel imac pro with plenty of RAM and an internal SSD.    fwiw, we had a lot of problems with Sony mxf footage before we overrode the color space to Rec709.

 

I've read a number of adobe docs on productions but don't see anything about any advantages/disadvantages of using productions for this kind of project.  At this point, we don't anticiapte working with more than one editor...  but that could change.  It's certainly possible we might hand off the finished project to a colorist and sound designer...   but I'm guessing we wouldn't do that till we had a locked picture (but of course it's impossible to anticipate how that will shake out - there's always a possibility that a specific sale might require making adjustments to the edit).  

 

So hoping someone here can give me some insight on whether there's any reason to migrate to a production at this point...  or down the road.

 

Thanks as always

 

Michael

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    R Neil Haugen
    R Neil Haugen
    Legend
    January 14, 2023

    Michael,

     

    I've 'talked' via here & elsewhere several folks into modding a project into Productions mode. POwens is spot- on, it's not nearly as big a problem or task as it seems like.

     

    Create the Production, which includes both an actual folder and the Production file inside it.

     

    Then it's recommended to make subfolders within that main folder ... so within Premiere, just right-click/create folder. Set that up for you main sections of the project. for example, Dailies, Sequences, Audio, Stills, Graphics, Finals ... whatever you think works for 'seeing' your job best.

     

    Within those folders create projects for 'holding' the assets, the media/sequences whatever. You can convert stand-alone projects adding them into the Production at this point also.

     

    And ... get to work. No duplications. You can drag a sequence to a different project and it's fine. If you do have multiple people working, they can do so at the same time except for say something one of you is actively working on.

     

    And the blame things loads and runs without nearly the load on the computer.

     

    Neil

    Everyone's mileage always varies ...
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      POwens
      Inspiring
      January 14, 2023

      Good summary Neil.  As Neil says, multiple editors can access the Dropbox Productions folder and work at the same time on different systems if you have network shared media.  Projects opened by anyone are locked, so only the person who opens them can save them.  Multiple people can open the same project and work on them at the same time, and lock icons and editor names are indicated telling you who is the current 'owner' of the project.   Very useful, and works across the internet if you're using Dropbox.

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        POwens
        Inspiring
        January 14, 2023

        Caveat - it's a little finicky, and along the way you will end up creating projects outside of the Productions window, or duplicating a project, which throws a wrench in the works.  So don't do that.   Create, move, edit and trash the projects ONLY from the Productions window, NEVER in the Finder.

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          POwens
          Inspiring
          January 14, 2023

          Hi Michael!   I'd say the biggest advantage I've found for using Productions is that moving the edit around between AE's and other editors becomes much simpler, and you no longer have to deal with that old Premiere nightmare of ending up relinking everything and Premiere bringing tons of duplicate clips into a project that already has them.   Then, yu dump all the duplicates into a 'z' folder, and hope it all continues to work.   That can become a real pain point on large projects, as your edit project balloons in size and you end up having to mange that.   Using Productions, you can build a tidy dailies project, an archival project, a music project, a sound effects project, and your edit project can be nice and small and mostly just your cuts.   It seems to work pretty well - I'm on a massive doc project (we've spoken about it before), and the Productions aspect of it has ben close to rock-solid, and doesn't seem to present problems.   You do have to set it up right at the beginning, and you need to be a little careful to stick with the plan, as if you're just wanteing to move fast and start dropping, say, new archival clips into the edit project, that media is not communally shared and the system can start to break down.   It forces a little discipline, but that's not necceasrily a bad thing.

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            POwens
            Inspiring
            January 14, 2023

            Please excuse many Saturday morning not enough coffee typos.....

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