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Inspiring
August 6, 2020
Question

color - any feature to use color charts ( x rite ) for color correction?

  • August 6, 2020
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I just ordered an x rite color checker passport video from B&H, Been watching some youtube videos to try and get a heads up on how to use with resolve 15 cause I only have CS6 creative suite ( very old ).

Is there a way to use the chart with Lumetri ( with masks etc. ) to do auto correction like fcp and resolve?

Like, you tell it the source color space and timeline space and export space and do an auto correction ?

 

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salvo34Author
Inspiring
August 7, 2020

thanks MG, you basically sound like you went through the same learning curve for resolve after coming form adobe. the books and tutorials and the UI and all that.

Thanks Neil.... if you could find it in your heart to do a tutorial for me using resolve 15 ( not 12 ) and explain the auto and manual stuff ( using all the scopes etc. ) I would seriously consider paying you for that link.

I don't 'subscribe' to anything , ever... I don't let anyone into my bank account for auto payments, etc... so that's out of the question.

 

salvo34Author
Inspiring
August 7, 2020

does adobe have to re-write the program from the ground up to catch up with color management ?

 

salvo34Author
Inspiring
August 7, 2020

Thanks Chris. Good link.

So far I've come to understand ( via google searches etc. ) that this passport video thing is sorta built into fcp and resolve as a way to either automatically correct ( once mask is drawn to cover chart ) or else use manual controls ( which I've been doing for the last couple years without a 'auto chart' option ).

I just want to speed things up for basic levels and wb etc... but usually shoot so it's close so manual is fairly easy.

I want to learn more about the vector scope and HLS in resolve 15 specifically, and that is my biggest dumbness. I haven't got the product yet ( will take a week to get here probably ) so I'm just trying to learn what I can from tutorials online before I get it.

I am old and getting impatient with learning new stuff, but I even thought, " maybe I can write a PM to Neil and ask him to make a tutorial for me," but then realized I'd have to mail him an X rite color checker passport VIDEO card... ( about $ 160.00 with tax ) and then offer another amount of money to do the tutorial, which is beyond my fixed income.

 

I love it that people to plug ins and claim to fix things easily and all that, but frankly I have to learn how to use it without going bonkers and believing in snake oil remedies.

 

 

Legend
August 7, 2020

https://mixinglight.com/ I think has some tutorials for using the x rite.  There's a paywall but I think there might be a free trial.  Neil works with them I think.  When I decided to start working in resolve, I bought a set of tutorials (I think it was around $150 us dollars).  This was maybe 3 or 4 years ago.  I worked my way thru most of them and don't think they were the greatest. bwdik.  .   But having the structure to learn the ins and outs of the interface for color correction was definitely useful.  Where I had some serious problems was with the whole database thing.  Unless you're working with the paid version (whatever that was at the time) in a shared environment, it just made things unnecessarily complicated.   

 

But it is an amazing color correction tool (much better than lumetri in my opinion) and when I was supervising a restoration of a film from the 1970's at a major post house in NY, it was great having the knowledge to be able to push the colorist in certain directions (something he may not have always been happy about).  As they say, a little learning is a dangerous thing.

chrisw44157881
Inspiring
August 7, 2020

you can download

http://www.mattroberts.org/MBR_Color_Corrector/

to use your colorchecker automatically. it says it supports CS6 so try the trial to test it.

salvo34Author
Inspiring
August 6, 2020

thanks for your answers, you guys... I'll let you know what happens when I get the thing from B&H and test it with BRAW bmpcc 4k

 

Legend
August 6, 2020

there is a free version of resolve...  I have the xrite and did some tests in resolve without much success.  It sounds like a great idea...  have to admit I didn't spend a lot of time trying to make it work...  

R Neil Haugen
Legend
August 6, 2020

Not at this time. Color charts are very useful when shot right, but no automated recognition of them.

 

Well ... one use. Do them of the various cams in a scene, set up identically for each one, then use the "Apply match" feature of Premiere to set one to match the other.

 

Neil

 

Edit: especially if you're doing this in multicams, do the above while on the Master Clip tab for each clip, then that sets the changes for all instances of each clip in that sequence.

Everyone's mileage always varies ...