Colour accuracy - grading in Premier and playback in Safari

Hi Carlos, Neil and Chris

Great, thanks for the replies, really appreciated.

To reply the questions - If I play back my rendered clip in Premiere’s Source monitor, it looks the same as the pre-rendered graded clip in Premier. In both VLC and Firefox it play back pretty similarly to Premiere. My monitor is calibrated with colour Navigator 6 with a brightness of 100 cd/m2, a white point of 6500k and a gamma of 2.2

Lucky I am only just starting on my video projects, so at the moment I am just trying to figure out the best workflow to get accurate colours for this and future projects.

I mostly shoot stills and do my stills post work in photoshop, which allows me to work in different colour spaces and then lets me convert the competed image to the colour space of it’s end use. I had assumed that Premiere would have a similar flexible approach to colour management. I am just getting my head round the fact it doesn’t.

I am guessing there are quite a lot of people who colour correct footage in Premier for playback in Safari. Ignoring my set-up, are there any techniques would people usually use to make the two aps match each other as closely as possible?

I think all your grading is hosed. As you said,  "wide gamut screen" is not rec.709 so you've been grading all this time in the wrong gamut as premiere doesn't support any monitor profiling. actually, afaik, even calibration profiles icc icm are useless unless your monitor supports hardware luts not OS software luts. A work around is if you've loaded then as an adjustment layer in premiere over the top of everything and/or used an adobRGB/P3 to Rec. 709 gamma 2.2 D65 lut.

Carlos is correct. PrPro IS color managed and correct internally for the main pro broadcast standard of BT (Rec.) 709, which is also sRGB and typically gamma 2.2 or 2.4.

Then you're displaying that media on a wide-gamut display (that you say is calibrated but you don't say to what standard) in QuickTime player, which is notoriously Color Stuupid.

The only browser that pays any attention to color tags in media is Firefox.

So you're getting a rather predictable view of that media. If you want color-correct views, display in properly color managed apps and viewers on screens with proper calibration.

And understand this is something even broadcast pros have to do ... outside of your proper setup you have no control how any other screen ever displays your material. In "the wild" there are no standards or even any 2 screens that can be set to be identical coming from the same computer and highly professionally calibrated.

Also  ... you have never once seen exactly what the colorist saw on his/her screen of any program you have ever watched.

Life in Realville.

Neil

Quick Time and Safari are not this much reliable to monitor your color grading, try VLC ...

Premiere Pro is based on Rec.709 color profile.

What you see straight from Premiere Pro on properly calibrated monitors is your best match ...

Try to Playback your exported videos inside Premiere Pro's Source Monitor, what do you get ?