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May 23, 2012
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Denoiser problem

  • May 23, 2012
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Hi,

I've applied the denoiser effect to a number of clips to eliminate some hiss from an interview. (Need to match audio quality from a interview shot on an EX3 and then continued on a DSLR.) Seemed to do the job just fine until I played back the timeline. There is a lag in the effect as I go from clip to clip. Some of the audio levels start really low and then come up to normal, as if there's a delay on the effect. I've seen some old posts reporting this problem and am wondering if any of you can tell me if there's been any progress on a fix for this denoiser bug. Using Premiere Pro CS5 on a Windows 7 machine. Thanks.

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SOLUTION

If the noisy clips are the only thing on that audio track, you can add the Denoiser effect from the audio mixer panel rather that applying it to each clip. The effect will apply to everything on that audio track, and I've found that it gets rid of the delays and oscillations of the Denoiser effect lots of times.

Open the audio mixer panel and you should see a slider there for each track and a master. At the top left of the mixer panel UI is a triangle toggle like the ones on all of the bins in Premiere's UI. Use the toggle to expand the mixer panel to show the fx bus. There you can pull down a list of all of the audio fx to apply to each track. After adding an effect to a track, right click on it and choose "edit" to make adjustments. You can do this while your timeline is playing to hear the results. You can also keyframe effects on the timeline by setting the track display to "show track keyframes". That option is down on the audio tracks in the timeline panel.

Since I learned of these options, I know find them indispensable and you them on nearly every project

35 replies

Participating Frequently
December 6, 2016

This problem is not fixed at all. Very disappointing. Will likely look for alternative software now. This seems fundamental and i can't believe it seems to be ignored.

Known Participant
December 6, 2016

This problem exists for years!!!

They replaced it with "adaptive noise reduction" which also starts every clip with noise.

It´s like a bad joke.

Even if you put the "adaptive noise reduction" on the whole track

and you do later volume tweeks on individual clips

every altered clip will start with 1-2 seconds of noise.

Wow, Adobe - so ridiculous, time wasting. Time that cost me money

and thousands of other users.

Participant
October 31, 2016

I am not sure if this is correct, but all my audio editing was done, so what I did was nested the audio files together and then apply the de noisier effect to the whole clip (made up of all the clips of audio). The effect still happened at the beginning of my video but you could cope with that if you just lower the sound or just put a fade in, I assume. Hope this helps!

Participant
September 19, 2016

Oh DEAR GOD ADOBE would you FIX this already?!?!?!?!!

Kevin-Monahan
Community Manager
Community Manager
September 22, 2016

A new denoiser effect from Audition is being offered in an upcoming version of Premiere Pro.

Thanks,
Kevin

Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community and Engagement Strategist – Adobe Pro Video and Audio
Participant
September 22, 2016

Looking forward to it! That will be great for quick edits with a little noise.

AutoP
Participant
August 27, 2016

Along with all the advertised amazing features Premiere offered, we ought to be made aware of things like this DeNoiser problem... Of course the burden of hindsight is on the customer, always - we had the ability to read all the feedback we could before buying...

Participant
August 19, 2016

Honestly this is one of the reasons my boss won't let me use Premiere Pro. Sitting on a final output for a client, and now I have to re-export and upload. Can't use the garbage Denoiser effect, so now I have to run it through izotope or something. If I can see and hear the video just fine, then I should be able to export it just fine. Unacceptable. Now I have to explain to my boss why Premiere Pro has quirks when Final Cut Pro 7 has been fine for 7 years.

Participant
August 12, 2016

Good lord. FIX THIS.

QCing my export of a 2 hour documentary 5 hours before screening for producers and I run into this garbage. 80% of the audio in the sequence has the denoiser applied (varying amounts of reduction). Sending it to Audition does not solve the issue. I'm totally screwed.

This is a joke. Remove the effect or fix the delay. 4 YEARS this thread has been open... unbelievable.

Participating Frequently
August 4, 2016

2016 and still no fix.

The SOLUTION given is not an answer.  It is a partial workaround that only helps some people so listing this thread as ANSWERED is unsatisfying.  I have been using the denoiser on the channel mixer for a while now and while it sometimes works correctly, this bug has returned to the mixer too.

Adobe's answer to everything seems to be to go learn a whole new application.  After Effect's 3D raytracing isn't doing something right?  Well. . . Adobe says use Cinema 4D application they kludged on even though it will take you 30 hours to learn it just so you can do something that would take 10 seconds to set up in the original 3D environment they won't fix.   Premier's denoiser doesn't work?  Use Audition even though it will take you 10 hours to learn Audition and adding the denoiser takes 10 seconds.   How about I dump Premiere and use Avid or Final cut if the solution is always about going to outside applications?  I already have Pro Tools and Logic Pro.  Maybe I should dump the CC and use those??

I'm sick of it.  Exporting to outside applications is a nice OPTION for some uses but it shouldn't be REQUIRED for something trivial like a basic hiss filter.  What next?  Export to Audition so I can change the volume?   The whole selling point of the cloud service was that they could get updates and fixes out quickly.   That's not happening.  They are pushing out new features rather than fixes and the new features often break the old features.  After Effects now crashes while rendering some "older" projects after an update.   They recently added the "dynamics" plugin to Premiere which was great.  Except, they ruined the benefit by removing all the plugins that used to do that job.  So, every old project I have is now MISSING PLUGINS.   I guess Adobe expects me to go back and remix every project I had with the new plugin.  Who decides these things?  Who decides that our time is worth NOTHING so we should just go remix all our works in progress from scratch and learn some new big application because they never got around to fixing the easier solution?

My patience is really running thin. . . as you can probably tell.

Participant
July 25, 2016

still not fixed..

Crixus1324
Participant
May 17, 2016

Adobe, how has this not been fixed? I have tried all of the above suggestions and nothing is working. The original post was YEARS ago and this is still an issue in the latest release. I also do not have audition, nor do I have the option (through my workplace) to get it at the moment.

Participant
December 17, 2015

I happen to love the DeNoiser filter and have used it successfully before on single long clips.  But I am editing a project today and I ran into this same problem everyone is having.  I have a lot of edited audio clips in my project, multiple audio sources that I am trying to use DeNoiser on to clean up.  When my video exports, the first three seconds of each clip where there is an edit point will have a hiss, until the Denoiser turns on and then the hiss comes down.

I tried cleaning my cache - That didn't work at all. I tried adding the Denoiser as an effect to the track, that also didn't work for me, the result was the same.

Here is the solution I found that worked - I actually removed the denoiser on all my clips, every single one in the timeline, then I exported just the final edited audio clip as a waveform.  I then imported that waveform back into Premiere, it still sounds noisy at this point, but its now one single big clip.  I then dragged that clip back to my original timeline on a different audio track so it lined up perfectly.  Then I applied a denoiser filter to that single large clip, the result worked like a charm!  No more annoying denoiser gaps every time there is an edit point.

This method worked for me, hope it helps! 

-Alex Matthews

justinreves
Participant
February 3, 2016

This was a simple but great tip. Fixed my issue. Thanks for sharing. Kinda crazy this is still a problem.

thomasv67085215
Participant
April 13, 2016

Still having this issue to this day. I simply cannot work with this software anymore. Utterly unprofessional garbage!