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Kevin J. Monahan Jr.
Community Manager
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April 29, 2019
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Editors' R.O.T. _002 — Create Your Own Auto Save Vault

  • April 29, 2019
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From the Editor's R.O.T.

One of the important R.O.T.s I can pass on to self-trained editors is this: Create Your Own Auto Save Vault.

One can never have too many backups of your project file

In case something should happen to your project file, you should always have a recent backup of your project ready to go.

In the spirit of paranoia (the mark of any established editor), I advise everyone to create your own set of backups on a regular basis using File > Save As > Version_00x, and place these in a folder, for example. Simple tip!

Note that you may have to set an alarm on your watch or phone in order to build up a decent archive, but a few backups a day should do the trick.

You should make copies of the project somewhere to the internet or on another computer system, ideally offsite (like on Creative Cloud). That way, you can guard against a fire, flood, or other natural disaster (like an earthquake—a very real threat to the TV industry here in California).

All that said, doesn't Premiere Pro have an Auto Save feature?

Good point!

Why is this necessary, what about the Auto Save feature?
Just about every NLE has an Auto Save feature for project files. Projects are saved incrementally over time in every NLE. However, the Auto Save feature in just about every NLE I've ever used to edit had a tendency to not work the way you'd expect them to, especially when you needed them most. Each NLE has its own set of rules and quirks you should be aware of (see the above articles). Even if Auto Save did work well in present or past, an editor worth their salt might want their own set of backups so that one could have saves at crucial points of their edit.

Auto Save is getting pretty good with Premiere Pro these days, and it has saved my bacon more than once, which is a good thing. However, if you were curious, here are some articles about Premiere Pro's Auto Save feature:

In that last article, it is important to note that there is an Auto Save preference for you to save a copy of your Auto Save project to Creative Cloud. Please turn that on so that you have added protection against project file failure.

When is a backup useful?

  • If you've crashed and then discover your Auto Save preference is switched off for some reason.
  • If Auto Save files aren't current enough.
  • If a project file becomes corrupt and won't open any more.
  • If a drive failure happens.
  • If a fire, flood, or natural disaster occurs.
  • If your other Auto Save files are also corrupt.

If you do not have a recent back up of that file at the ready, you are putting every editing job you ever get in possible jeopardy. You must be a guardian against any failure of every project file.

Can this situation be improved?

Sure! This is a pretty nasty pain point, I think, so I suggest that that you might want upvote this feature request: Instant Auto Save – Adobe video & audio apps Please add your feedback in User Voice on how you'd like this feature to work or any other improvement along these lines.

It's pretty cool how Rush and Team Projects work with saving as automatic to saving to Creative Cloud is already a reality with those apps.

I'd love to hear about your methods of backing up projects. Or do you rely solely on Auto Save? Let me know in the comments below.

Disclaimer: "I'm speaking more as an editing colleague or instructor in these R.O.T.s, and not necessarily as an Adobe employee. I taught editing in trade schools for several years before coming to Adobe, and was hoping to pass along some things I used to teach."

—Kevin

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Legend
June 12, 2019
I advise everyone to create your own set of backups on a regular basis using File > Save As > Version_00x

Save Version – Adobe video & audio apps

Stan Jones
Community Expert
Community Expert
June 12, 2019

Great ROT. (lol. Is that a compliment or a put down? It is a Compliment!)

It cannot be emphasized too much: use autosave but DO NOT rely on it. Building a habit of making thoughtful, intentional iterative versions of your project is the only way to avoid disasters.

I ran many tests of the 2018-2019 changes to autosave, and I believe autosave operates mostly as described.

The "Save backup project to Creative Cloud" was a great addition. But it only keeps the latest version. The cloud version is copied over when a new autosave event occurs. Using Kevin's method (save as), the previous version remains when the new version is saved! Also, "save a copy" results in the copy being saved to the cloud.

But note that the "cloud" copy only gets to the cloud if you are a) on line and b) setup to sync files. If you ever pause syncing, you MUST remember to turn it back on.

Another new feature is the "Auto Save also saves the current project(s)." (This appears to be operating whether you have the option checked in preferences or not.) This creates and then updates a copy of the latest version of the project in the Autosave folder, with the same name as the current project. It is updated anytime you save or an autosave event occurs. Again, "save as" keeps the latest of each version in the Autosave folder. It does not do this with "save a copy."

Stan

R Neil Haugen
Legend
April 30, 2019

Paranoia in any computer workflow is an essential to vocal health and undamaged foreheads. It also saves a lot of money for monitor and keyboard replacements.

Within days of my first working with video editing, I had a great opportunity ... learning the need for both manual saves and save-as iterations in one simple ... direct ... and very painful Learning Experience.

Pain being an incredible teacher, I do follow my own set of the above suggestions ... and from things ranging from power outages to crashes to personal stupidity, I have on numerous occasions been able to simply get back to work because I followed the above.

Karma or whatever being what it is, when I occasionally slip ... something goes weird in the building or whatever and I get an opportunity for a refresher course. I very, very rarely slip these days.

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...