Exporting markers for projects

I told some guy in ATL about my 'man tool and girl tool' thing and that it was a joke to make women mad ( as I don't associate tools with gender ) and he said , " look out, she might hit you in head with frying pan."

But I got no actors and just open or close drawers to show tools... and I don't think it will be more than 30 secs long.... so any extra info has to be fast text or voice over or nothing at all.. I have no clue.

But I gotta shoot it to even move on.... I can't just think about it... I gotta make it happen sorta.

I'm a jerk.

hehe...

To me it's a lot more fun and satisfying to talk about stuff like this, than dealing with most of this forum stuff re: hardware and software and UI problems. Editing and telling stories is more complicated than just having stuff that WORKS to do the job in terms of trying to use a gazillion platforms and cameras and codecs and how to simply use the programs ( discover where you have to go in UI to tell the program what to do ). I get bored with that stuff quickly. John Smith has a good database of junk to solve that kinda stuff, and Ann Bens knows a lot of ways to make things work but I really just care about the guts of editing and shooting and getting stuff done without problems with that simple poop which is non stop in this forum.

It should probably be called " hardware problems and bugs " and " how to read a help file " or whatever.

The forum is basically a free 'help' solution for a company that no longer keeps up with help files for current versions and it misrepresnts itself as a part of the 'customer support' we normally associate with a product we buy and expect help with. It's mind boggling.

I'd much rather talk about the actual shooting and editing of stuff with people like you.

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hehe, my writing is also terrible but maybe not as bad as yours.

My experience in film biz was as grip ( motion pic mechanic ) in nyc. location scout to PA to grip. mostly natl. tv commercials, episodic tv and movies. some industrials and odd jobs. Never worked on a documentary. those jobs saw the 2nd AC doing notes re: film ( then digital ) ... like they have forms to fill out for film in the can so if it needs a reshoot they can duplicate various settings. Only other person making notes was script supervisor ( like noting the blocking angles and which takes the dir. likes ( print )).

everything was scripted with sound done by mixer on set... and video playback ( or DIT later) to review shots.

Nothing like the harder smaller things you do sponaneously is my guess.

Then when I retired I bought some stuff and started shooting my own stuff by myself ( which is really hard to do ).  But I only do really short stuff and I've only edited a few guys stuff they shot or had shot, so I don't have the experience you do.

Since my stuff is short and simple I don't make notes as I work. I have notes on my storyboard and in script but it's just really simple stuff. I end up sweating and trying to get stuff done fast but again, I don't do complicated stuff like you.

You'll do great and make things work so good going and keep it up... at the very least you'll be really happy to have made stuff and told stories, regardless of financial success... I think financial success is sometimes luck and perseverence.

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interesting subject this has been... thanks for yappin !

once I was working as a grip on something directed by that guy who did 12 angry men, murder on the orient express, jeremiah johnson , stuff like that... and I did an idiot check before leaving location and found a fat notebook on a bench inside a church ... so I opened it to see who it belonged to, and it was the directors.... you wouldn't believe all the cool notes and stuff inside that thing... so I gave it to a PA to give to the director....but I learned something about how to USE PAPER.

For markers I usually just make notes ( if I ever use them cause it's rare cause I'm just a hobbyist ) about stuff like " fix sky" or " fix saturation " and stuff that only relates to that clip on that timeline... NOTHING about what to shoot and stuff like that... all that is on PAPER.

I use a program to rename files after import to computer from SD cards, SSD, etc....

Then I use my own paperwork FORMS to keep track of stuff as I keep track of what's what...

Like this sorta thing...

It looks neat as a form but it becomes a rat nest with notes and arrows and whatever it takes to keep my head around what I want to use to complete the puzzle....

Good luck to you too !

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believe it or not even ken burns uses strip boards... here's an example of some stupid program that promises to make them for you, which is dumb... you have to hire people to run production and keep on top of this stuff 24/7 cause of location and weather variables, etc.  It is changed constantly.. to help everyone stay employed.

https://setheroapp.com/blog/film-shooting-schedule-stripboard-template/

I'm shooting something called ( tentatively ) 'man tools and girl tools'.... maybe 20 seconds total when done.

I can hardly keep up with my mental notes as I try to piss off all the women in the world.

And simply live and DO something... keep working on SOMETHING... so god bless you for doing stuff to tell a story 

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key for kitchen and man tool part done

MAN TOOLS on Vimeo

use paper

just do it on paper after the fact ( after you shoot what you could get by shooting from the hip ).

Otherwise you're basically asking an edit program to edit for YOU using marker notes that don't even describe the final edit... which is kinda lazy IMO.

If you don't have some kind of timeline and story in mind, before you start shooting documentary ( in your case ) then who cares ???  You could end up with gibberish and everyone will love to watch it !

You could start off with shooting turtles, and then birds, and then humans, and then politicians, and then farmer's markets, and nobody will care as an audience, because you didn't care when you started your documentary.

Just do it on paper ... geez.... doesn't have to be complicated... just write down what you got when you get to the computer to input what you got ( with filename changes to keep stuff orgaized )...

You really have to think or it's called " street photography " NOT motion pic film or video..

Force your brain into THINKING and buy some typewriter paper at local store, and make it work.

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good luck

p.s. don't forget sound and music !

There is a handy little program called Post Notes 2.0 that may offer you an alternative solution.

I don't think you can export the notes (ask the developer; it may be a feature request) but you can see all of the note entries for a sequence at once, and each note entry can be attached to a timecode in the sequence. The web site has a cool demo. The program costs $25 and works in Pr 2020 on macOS Big Sur 11.2.2. Windows version also available.