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SREAGAN
SREAGAN
Participant
January 29, 2020
Question

FIRST OR LAST FRAME in CANVAS DO NOT MATCH FIRST OR LAST FRAME OF THE VIDEO FILE or THUMBNAIL IN SEQ

  • January 29, 2020
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First-time caller long time listener. I never post to forums but this is driving me bonkers. 

 

In the timeline, I will make a cut/trim to a video file. The file will render (green) playback and everything will look great, per usual. BUT, after the render and even before the render, the last or first frame of the file that I cut will be in the first frame or last frame of the previous or next file in the timeline. Let us imagine I completely delete a video file from the timeline (still in the project folder). The video files that were on either side of that file in the timeline will now have the first and last frame of the file that I just cut from the timeline. every. single. time. My workaround is to pull the remaining files back until the undesired frame is gone. This happens with title frames, nested sequences, embedded ae files, jpg, adjustment layers and any other video file type you can imagine. 

 

I write this because my workaround is no longer working(around). The cut frames from one file will stay in the other frame no matter how far I cut back the wanted file. To iterate, I am losing time for the file I want and the unwanted frame continues to exist as the first/last frame of the shortened video file. This issue is dismantling my workflow. Adobe, please advise me as to what I can do to fix this heinous bug. (We have tried reinstalling) I hope there is an easy fix. 

 

Adobe Premiere Pro 2020 Version 14.0.0 (Build 572)

 

Video files all have the same codec, are shot on the same camera, and match the settings for the sequence. 

 

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Kevin J. Monahan Jr.
Kevin J. Monahan Jr.
Legend
January 29, 2020

Spencer,

You're about to receive a super secret tip. It's so secret, it used to be passed down between master and apprentice or via attending a $30,000 trade school's "NLE Boot Camp." Nowadays, only those that kind find the secret oracle....

 

Just kidding. I think I know what's going on here: the tip is that whenever marking an Out Point with the Playhead, press the Left Arrow button once first, then Mark Out. Do this always.

Why? Zoom way into the Playhead. Then you'll see what's going on. You'll see a little "tail" extending from the playhead.


Now: remain zoomed in at the head of a clip: Mark In, and you're marking at the head of the frame. No problem, it's accurate. Now, place an Out Point. You'll see the Out is placed after the tail of the frame, which denotes the first frame of the following clip. Once you move left one frame, then mark an Out, you can see that it's then set accurately.

The Playhead is often thoough of as a "needle" but it is not one once you zoom in and see that it has tail and represents a full frame of video.

 

Hope that helps. As an aside, some editors never receive this piece of info and lopped off an extra frame throughout their entire career, every time they used the Playhead to mark Out. 😉

 

Thanks,
Kevin

Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community and Engagement Strategist – Adobe Pro Video and Audio
    SREAGAN
    SREAGANAuthor
    Participant
    January 29, 2020

    Hey Kevin, 

     

    Thank you for your advice and for saving me the dinero!

     

    These images below will help me illustrate my problem. The change is almost indistinct while playing at a normal speed. To the effect that a cue mark for a reel-change in a film. One only notices it if they are paying attention. However, it is noticeable.

     

    Here I am editing a simple video to a song and need to fill in the time properly. The cut is on the beat. In and out points were selected and reselected. I have deleted files set in and out points again, yet this problem continues. It is very subtle but when I play it back there is only 1 frame (1/24th of a second or something of the sort ..00:08:16 - ...00:08:18 is corrupt) that is not color correct and leaves a glitch. Then as you notice that the highlighted thumbnail on the timeline is different from the image in the above canvas. The canvas and thumbnail should match. From my understanding, the program canvas shown below should be impossible. The canvas should match the thumbnail. Is this situation normal to have the canvas and thumbnail be from two different files? 

     

    I believe I found another workaround. This time I deleted all the fx applied to the file and added another adjustment layer. The Lumetri Color fx applied had corrupt the file situation. Do video editors ever apply color corrections directly to a raw file? I know destructive edits are avoided in photoshop.    

    Hope to hear your thoughts, Thanks again!

     

     

     

    SREAGAN
    SREAGANAuthor
    Participant
    January 29, 2020

    This problem becomes worse as the videos become more complex. 

            

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