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Got Color Balance Issue

  • July 31, 2021
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Hi, I have this recurring problem that has virtually stopped my editing.

Some color effects have just gone from my Premiere Pro 2021, which are Color Balance, Fast Color Corrector and Three-Way Color Corrector. Until last week, I had no trouble finding and using them in Premiere Pro 2021. 
But, they are not found anymore in the Effects panel. Other color effects are still searchable and usable. It's just the three effects, Color Balance, Fast Color Corrector and Three-Way Color Corrector that are not in my Premiere Pro 2021. Some of my works done with the three effects now show a certain message saying something like, "Color Balance filter is not searchable."
I'd really appreciate it if someone can help me with my problem. 
Thank you

    Correct answer defaultabntnp460syn

    The first thing is first. Thank you, Rohit, the ADOBE agent I've talked to, for the help you gave me. Now I can have everything I need.

     

    Last week, I don't know why or how, but, the three effects, Color Balance, Fast Color Corrector and Three-Way Color Corrector, all disappeared from my Premiere Pro 2021's effects panel. And everytime I'd try to open a project done with one of the three effects, it gives me a message saying, "Video Filter Missing: Color Balance (RGB), (HLS)" and, in the effect controls panel, "Filter Offline (Color Balance (HLS))".

    So, I've tried to contact an ADOBE agent from the query center. The agent, Rohit, took a moment to give me this address to install a previous version of Premiere Pro 2021: 

    https://helpx.adobe.com/download-install/using/install-previous-,.

    Meaning I old had to delete the current Premiere Pro 2021 and install a previous version, Premiere Pro 15.0.

    If anyone has the same issue with Premiere Pro as mine, try to delete your current Premiere Pro and install a previous version through the Creative Cloud.

     

    Thanks.

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    Isak2505917830oh
    Participant
    December 7, 2022

    Effects panel > Video Effects > Obsolete > Arithmetic

    It's almost like Color Balance.

    R Neil Haugen
    R Neil Haugen
    Legend
    December 7, 2022

    And of course, like all the Obsolete, ot available on the M1 Macs, and soon to not be available on anything. Ancient code. Be careful, much of the Obsolete is there for a good reason.

     

    Neil

    Everyone's mileage always varies ...
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    valeriet81668044
    Participating Frequently
    February 2, 2023

    But how do we do, when we need to open an old project using color balances, and we can't use it anymore???

    that's vert problematic because then the grading is completly messed up!

    i really dont understand why they took it out, it's was very useful

    is there a way to install it back? copy the file somewhere from another version?

    poullbrien
    poullbrien
    Participant
    February 5, 2022

    Hey so I'm also having an issue. I was using Color Balance (RGB) to create an 80s tv look in an edit. In premiere pro CC that effect is gone and it is not listed under obsolete video effects. My client asked for a new export of the edit and now the effect is gone and I'm stuck. 

    Is there a replacement for Color Balance (RGB)? 
    If not, is there another effect that would allow me to achieve the same color split and offset?

     

    Thank you!

    Ann Bens
    Community Expert
    Ann BensCommunity Expert
    Community Expert
    February 5, 2022
    quote

    Is there a replacement for Color Balance (RGB)? 


    By @poullbrien

     

    Lumetri!

    epensenstadler
    epensenstadler
    Known Participant
    February 20, 2025

    It's 2025 now and I'm just running into this same issue lol  I found this thread very helpful but wanted to put in my 2 cents - the issue for me and I think some of the folks who have commented here is that going forward I have no problem dumping Color Balance (RGB) and primarily using Lumetri, HOWEVER, past projects that used Color Balance that I'm still working on or that clients request re-edits etc it is extremely inconvenient and time consuming to go through every clip and find that ones that used Color Balance RGB and then have to replace it.  Know what I mean?  In new projects, no problem - forget the old effects and use Lumetri.  But old or pre-existing projects, major pain in the you know what! 😉

    R Neil Haugen
    R Neil Haugen
    Legend
    August 1, 2021

    White balance is about the least of my interest in color work, as I do tend to have good WB settings in-cam. Shooting primarily BRAW, I've got a lot of data to work with to make it LOOK like whatever I want it to look like.

     

    Neil

    Everyone's mileage always varies ...
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    Andy 1968
    Inspiring
    August 1, 2021

    I still use the old school color correction filter myself. I use the proc amp most of all because my white balance is usually dead on with a very little to adjust. 

    R Neil Haugen
    R Neil Haugen
    Legend
    August 1, 2021

    Those are ancient code, and as someone specializing in color, I cannot recommend the use of any of the three of them. And given they are all going away at some point not too far away because of being ancient tools, doubly so.

     

    Neither of Color Balance's two options, HLS or RGB, are shown as 32-bit float effects ... note there is a GPU-acceleratated lego block, but no other. Any application of this effect at that point in processing pulls PrPro out of 32-bit float and into 8-bit per channel ... 256 total levels before you change anything. So you can quickly get into banding issues.

     

    At least Fast and 3-Way correctors are 32-bit and GPU accelerated. However, they are both as noted, 'ancient' code. Which several of my colorist pals have pushed and demonstrated problems in the math used in various places in them. Which I'm assuming is why the developers aren't wasting time fixing them.

     

    The Lumetri panel auto-applies that effect to any selected clip without needing to manually add the effect to a clip. So it is fast to work down a sequence. You stop on a clip, PrPro auto-selects the clip, you simply adjust the controls you need. They're applied, you don't go to any effects bin to grab an effect.

     

    And the math is solid in Lumetri. Plus you can use it with the Tangent panels, Palette's, and Loupedeck tools. Which makes it even faster.

     

    Neil

    Everyone's mileage always varies ...
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    Joonastahtinen
    Participant
    August 4, 2021

    Lumetri panel is really slow and the modifications it makes to the colors are arbitrary. Fast color corrector is much faster than lumetri panel and has Lift, gamma, gain like operations in it and the WB tool in fast color corrector is similar to offset in resolve (essential for RAW like WB fixing). It's my go to tool for sure. Much better than lumetri, in my opinion. I really hope that adobe will not take fast color corrector away anytime soon.

    R Neil Haugen
    R Neil Haugen
    Legend
    August 4, 2021

    I don't know a colorist who would agree with some of your comments, but I'm sure at least some might. The comment that the color changes it makes are arbitrary ... make me think you simply haven't actually tested it out. It isn't arbitrary, it's totally predictable.

     

    I've a bit of a beef with it as the 'targeted' tonal controls only affect the targeted area a bit more than they do the rest of the scale. So you need to know exactly what each does, and balance say dropping Basic tab Shadow with a slight up-tick on Basic tab Highlights.

     

    But that isn't unusual with color/tonal work. It's similar to making an adjustment to color on any color wheels, Resolve, SpeedGrade, Lumetri ... cool your shadow wheel a touch, you need to warm your mids a bit to keep that from affecting your mids. The difference to me is the targeted controls in Lumetri are a bit less targeted than some others.

     

    The Color Wheels section of the Lumetri panel is pure Lift, Gamma, Gain. I don't have a clue why you'd say they don't have that.

     

    The  HSL curves of the Curves tab give options that nothing in Fast or 3Way can touch.

     

    And in the public beta, they've replaced the old Adobe square RGB curves tool with a wide rectangle, just like the other curves in the HSL Curves section. Which I will forever call the rNeil RGB Curve, as ... I've been arguing for that since 2015 also. Vociferously.

     

    They did a streaming presentation on PrPro that happened on the day the public beta with that rectangle RGB curves came out. Francis Crossman saw I was in the chat, and said "Hey Neil, go check out the new beta release curves ... something you want is in there". Charming that.

     

    Now if they'd get to the other 20 things I want in there, I'd really be happy. Offset among them. The ability to move tabs within Lumeti around to control processing order. To copy a TAB of a Lumetri effect and paste into another. And on ... more and more things I can list.

     

    You are correct that there isn't an offset in Lumetri ... I prefer Offset to Lift in many things. Which is part of why I was so ticked when they discontinued SpeedGrade.

     

    But the ability to map various functions of Lumetri together on a control surface makes it a vastly improved workflow over any other color tool in PrPro. I work normally with a full Tangent Elements panel, but have a Ripple for when I'm away from my desktop.

     

    And I've mapped all sorts of other things to the Element ... graphics work, audio, whatnot. Awesome tool.

     

    As to the WB ... the WB tool in the Basic tab is a typical WB tool same as in Resolve or Photoshop or the EOL'd SpeedGrade. White Balance is nearly always actually a white point control.

     

    The Temp control is for setting the relative balance between Red and Blue channels. The Tint control sets the relative balance between the (locked together) Red/Blue channels and the Green channel.

     

    I do use the WB tool but then, I've got my surface mapped so I have access to the Creative tab's Shadow color control. This way the white point is set by the WB control, and if I've a total color cast including shadows I clean that up with the Shadow tint control of the Creative tab ... at the same time. The surface can work with tools of Lumetri no matter which tab is 'active'.

     

    Yes, an Offset for doing color balance work would be awesome. I've argued for that with the engineers at every NAB since 2015, when it was clear SpeedGrade was headed to the archives.

     

    But the Fast is such a limited, slow thing for me compared to Lumetri. Which doesn't slow down my computer at all.

     

    Neil

    Everyone's mileage always varies ...
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    defaultabntnp460synAuthor
    Inspiring
    August 1, 2021

    I've talked to one of the agents from the query center. And problem solved. And for anyone who may encounter the same problem as mine, I'll leave another post detailing how I solved with the help of the ADOBE agent. Thanks.

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    defaultabntnp460synAuthorCorrect answer
    Inspiring
    August 1, 2021

    The first thing is first. Thank you, Rohit, the ADOBE agent I've talked to, for the help you gave me. Now I can have everything I need.

     

    Last week, I don't know why or how, but, the three effects, Color Balance, Fast Color Corrector and Three-Way Color Corrector, all disappeared from my Premiere Pro 2021's effects panel. And everytime I'd try to open a project done with one of the three effects, it gives me a message saying, "Video Filter Missing: Color Balance (RGB), (HLS)" and, in the effect controls panel, "Filter Offline (Color Balance (HLS))".

    So, I've tried to contact an ADOBE agent from the query center. The agent, Rohit, took a moment to give me this address to install a previous version of Premiere Pro 2021: 

    https://helpx.adobe.com/download-install/using/install-previous-,.

    Meaning I old had to delete the current Premiere Pro 2021 and install a previous version, Premiere Pro 15.0.

    If anyone has the same issue with Premiere Pro as mine, try to delete your current Premiere Pro and install a previous version through the Creative Cloud.

     

    Thanks.

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      Burak ÖZDEMİR
      Participant
      August 11, 2021

      Thank you so much for sharing the solution, it worked and appreciate it 🙂

      Ann Bens
      Community Expert
      Ann BensCommunity Expert
      Community Expert
      July 31, 2021

      When using the search type in one keyword or part of a word, cause you wont find 'color balance filter'

       

       

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      defaultabntnp460synAuthor
      Inspiring
      July 31, 2021

      thank you for your reply. But, by Color Balance Filter, I mean that the message, popped up when I opened my previous project done with Color Balance, has the phrase Color Balance Filter. I've already searched for the three effects in the Effects search panel just like you did, but nothing so far. And I've also deleted and reinstalled Premiere Pro 2021 several times so far. And nothing so far.

       

      Here's the picture of my Premiere Pro 2021 effects panel taken via my phone.

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      Community Manager
      Sumeet Kumar ChoubeyCommunity Manager
      Community Manager
      July 31, 2021

      Hi there,

       

      Sorry about the poor experience. The latest version of Premiere Pro would still allow to apply these effects. Please search under Effects panel > Video Effects > Obsolete & let us know if you are able to find these three effects. Also, please share a screenshot of the error message that you are getting with the old projects where the effects have been applied.

       

      Thanks,

      Sumeet

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        defaultabntnp460synAuthor
        Inspiring
        July 31, 2021

        Thank you. I'm attaching two screenshots; one is the message and the other is the screenshot of the effect controls panel of my previous project done with Color Balance.

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