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I need to get my mouse sharpened...

Forum|Forum|13 years ago
June 25, 2012
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Just an observation ....but I think that CS6 has turned my mouse into a blunt object!

Like filleting a fish with a blunt knife.

I have cut a handful of small projects with CS6 since its release but I am currently in the middle of cutting 8 TVCs.

This experience with CS6 has confirmed my observation that the new timeline trim tricks and functions seems to make me feel as if I am cutting with a blunt instrument compared to previous versions of PPRO.

If the mouse cursor is not precisely positioned...one does not get the trim action or result that one wants so easily. ie. Fiddling around until the desired trim indicator shows.

Working in a scaled out timeline makes things easier but it never felt this difficult before to get onto and edit point at either end of a clip.

With clients besides me...I have never felt so bumbling as this makes me look!

BTW - I am using combinations of mouse, shortcut keys and modifier keys.

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Jas Brooks

Participating Frequently

Here's a useful fix to make several of the most-used timeline cursors much more slimline and inobtrusive. It works by simply replacing the files inside your contents, so need a minimal degree of technical knowledge to implement.

I strongly recommend checking it out:

http://philipbloom.net/2012/07/07/premiereicons/

Cheers,

jason

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Toomany3-KEeYrp

Known Participant

Jas Brooks wrote:
Here's a useful fix to make several of the most-used timeline cursors much more slimline and inobtrusive. It works by simply replacing the files inside your contents, so need a minimal degree of technical knowledge to implement.
I strongly recommend checking it out:
http://philipbloom.net/2012/07/07/premiereicons/

I don't care about the size of the icon. That's not what bothers me. It's the proximity "helper" that drives me crazy. You get within 1 inch of a cut and the cursor changes. I'd MUCH rather the proximity "helper" revert back to they it REALLY helped in CS5.5 on back.

Sometimes you need a helping hand.

It's nice when you fall down that your buddy is there to extend a hand to help you up. But when you're just walking along and he wants to hold your hand the whole time you feel like getting a new buddy.

shooternzAuthor

Legend

YES! I just recently realized that is the major issue. Previously with the standard selection tool (V), the mouse cursor changed to the Trim tool when close to an edit point. Holding CTRL changed that into Ripple Trim.

The new behavior adds the Rolling Edit mode, and this is what's driving me nuts. N-V-T-S I tells ya! If I want a Rolling Edit, I'll change from the Selection tool to the Rolling Edit tool. I don't want Rolling Edit to come up as an option when I'm using the Selection tool. That makes it much more finicky trying to go into Ripple Edit mode.

Take out that damn Rolling Edit mode, Adobe!!! We already have a tool for that. Having that mode available with the Selection tool makes using Ripple Edit much more difficult.

Hey Jim

Can you make a video screen capture so we can see how you edit and where your issues lie.

I am surprised how difficult you are finding this.

I love having Rolling Edit so easily accessable without going to a separate tool.

ie. I can select it with the mouse but mainly I select it by toggling the Trim Modes ( left hand on keyboard)

cliffclof

Inspiring

The mouse uses about 5 pixels of extra space for blind people and in turn makes it feel Tonka Toy playschoolish. I really want to go back to the old version just because of this.

Once again... If I'm this inaccurate with a mouse I probably shouldn't be using adobe products to start with.

Kevin-Monahan

Community Manager

cliffclof wrote:
The mouse uses about 5 pixels of extra space for blind people and in turn makes it feel Tonka Toy playschoolish. I really want to go back to the old version just because of this.
Once again... If I'm this inaccurate with a mouse I probably shouldn't be using adobe products to start with.

You can make a feature request for "less chunky" tools. I don't think that's an odd request at all: http://www.adobe.com/go/wish

Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community and Engagement Strategist – Adobe Pro Video and Audio

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benwinter

Inspiring

I just want to add that I'm truly impressed with those of you whose worst workflow bottlenecks are between a movement of the mouse and a keystroke. That's skill...

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benwinter

Inspiring

YUP. I have to agree. Never before has editing been such a game of "Scale That Timeline!" I find myself clicking multiple times on an edit point just to grab the right end.

The screen resolution is there, the mouse coordinate resolution is there...why not use it?

Kevin-Monahan

Community Manager

Besides Premiere Pro CS5.5 and earlier, I don't think there's an NLE that doesn't allow you to select edits. So, as far as edit selection goes, you simply have to zoom in to an acceptable level. It's a fact of life for all NLE editors, I'm afraid.

Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community and Engagement Strategist – Adobe Pro Video and Audio

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benwinter

Inspiring

I think what I meant, and the OP meant as well, was that you didn't have to zoom in quite as far before to get the same level of precision in selection.

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Alan_Craven

Participating Frequently

Ahhh! So it is not just me!

tclark513

Known Participant

I really miss the handle at the top of the timeline for moving back and forth in the timeline.

KJerryK

Legend

Do you mean this --

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Anonymous

shooternz wrote:

This experience with CS6 has confirmed my observation that the new timeline trim tricks and functions seems to make me feel as if I am cutting with a blunt instrument compared to previous versions of PPRO.
If the mouse cursor is not precisely positioned...one does not get the trim action or result that one wants so easily. ie. Fiddling around until the desired trim indicator shows.
Working in a scaled out timeline makes things easier but it never felt this difficult before to get onto and edit point at either end of a clip.

Yep. I feel that pain too. Selection went from point-'n-click to a multiple step processing involving constant rescaling of the timeline. Blech.

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excited_Genie16B8

Legend

the new timeline trim tricks and functions seems to make me feel as if I am cutting with a blunt instrument compared to previous versions of PPRO.

Agreed. Adobe's efforts at making things easier for keyboard purists have had the unwanted side effect of making things more difficult for those of us who prefer the mouse remain under the hand while editing, as you can never truly give up it's use entirely.

shooternzAuthor

Legend

What seems to have happened is that because the Trim Modes needs to be "indicated" by a big fat symbol ....at ...and either side of the edit point...the editing precision is lost for those of us who are frequently cutting and trimming very short scenes in our timelines.eg. 6 - 30 frame cuts

In a TVC I regularly cut in this region ...and in CS6...I am constantly having to scale up the timeline to get in the edit point zone. An added few actions for me.

I cant actually suggest anyway to resolve it for myself (even as a feature request) so I will have to live with the tyranny of the keyboard shorcut exponents who have migrated in here from FCP and Avid!!!! - a thousand curses on you lot.

Adobe - "feature requests that fix it til its broke "

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Jim Curtis

Inspiring

I cant actually suggest anyway to resolve it for myself (even as a feature request)

I'll add my voice that scaling the timeline has become a routine for precision editing.

I do have a suggestion, though, for a feature request... Make it work like parameter changes in Ae: Use the Command key to slow things down, and the shift key to speed things up. IOW, holding command while adjusting a parameter give us fine control in small increments. Whereas the Shift modifier acts as a multiplier, allowing large scale adjustments.

I'm in favor of Adobe employing consitent behavior across their suite of apps.

I also like the way that FCP lets you trim by frames when using a Ripple Trim tool by pressing the comma or period for 1 frame trims, and the M and / keys for 5 or 10 frame trims (set by preferences). Is there a feature like that in CS6? I'm talking about timeline editing here; and NOT going into Trim Mode.

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