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Premiopolis
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October 11, 2017
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Is it possible to load a bin item in the Source or Program Panel?

  • October 11, 2017
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Is it possible -- I know it wasn't years passed -- to load a bin item in the source monitor by means other than file path?  I'd love to be able to load multicam source sequence into the source monitor.  Or a sequence into the record monitor.  Possible yet?

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Correct answer Bruce Bullis

Nope, still need a path. I checked; your vote was already added to "Provide API to open a projectItem in the Source monitor".

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Bruce Bullis
Bruce BullisCorrect answer
Legend
October 11, 2017

Nope, still need a path. I checked; your vote was already added to "Provide API to open a projectItem in the Source monitor".

Premiopolis
Inspiring
October 13, 2017

Real-world example of where programmatically loading either the Source or Program panel programmatically via bin item object, as opposed to via media path would be superior:

On a project with lots of Multicam sources, logged using Markers.  The logs breaks the footage down by key words, each representing a section of script.  There's no native PPro method of pulling up all the Markers containing that keyword.

Side note, check out

https://forums.adobe.com/message/9878523#9878523

https://forums.adobe.com/message/9878522#9878522

https://forums.adobe.com/message/9718505

which are hinting, suggesting at ways of evolving the "Search Bin" to

a) make it capable of representing results that are both Markers and Clips, and

b) More sophisticated and surgically precise in its ability to get at the intended content moments.)

In the absence of a more sophisticated content search system we started building our own which involves auto exporting per-clip (including per Multicam) Markers and importing them to an external, central database.  That gets us partway to our goal by allowing us to search for hits across all clips, and across all markers in one central searchable soup.  Currently we can click (either externally or internally using a PPro custom panel) to directly load results to the source monitor if and only if the source has a file path.  Not so if the Marker originated from a Multicam, sequence or any bin item NOT supported by a file path.

Our ultimate goal here is to have a system that allows us to log either clips (or beats within clips -- either as subclips or (preferably) Markers) using an array of search categories that can be queried with great sophistication.

PPro has all the right foundational ingredients to make this possible: Sophisticated Metadata control, Metadata Displays, Search Bins, the Custom-Codable ExtendScript API, but they don't yet quite play nice with one another.  Each route to editing glory gets stymied by some technical limitation -- like some cranky road troll that stands in the way with its knobby staff muttering "You shall not pass"!

In this case all that would be needed to cinch the solutions

a) An ability to load any bin item directly, as opposed to via file path

b) An ability to cue that item and play (haven't tested to see if this part is possible)

Bottom line: we're very close -- just 1 or 2 missing PPro SDK links away from an editing breakthrough.

Bruce Bullis
Legend
October 16, 2017

Cuing an item and playing it are possible today; your motivation for opening projectItems (and not simply file paths) makes sense.