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laptop with battery + Adobe Premiere at Full Load = laptop shuts down

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June 14, 2019
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Hello,

I bought a refurbished Lenovo W541 laptop (4xi7 2.9 Ghz, 32G Ram, Quatro K2100, 3K IPS, 2TB SSD, Win 10 Pro) primarily for video editing in Adobe Premiere CC2019. When operating from electricity, everything is fine, the laptop is running great. But when running on battery power at high load, such as when exporting high birate video from Adobe Premiere, when all processor cores work and the graphics card is running at full power, the notebook turns itself off automatically after about two minutes, as if the battery was not enough performance. The battery works perfectly during normal work. I have already tried three original Lenovo batteries from the dealer (4400 mAh and high capacity 9210 mah), with about 15% wear and always with the same result. Problems occur only when working with Adobe Premiere, for activities that require full CPU and graphics card usage. My laptop is up to date, drivers and BIOS are the latest version updated with the Lenovo Vantage utility.

Anybody deal with it? For example, when running on a battery, can CPU power be reduced to 70%? Or do you have any other idea or advice?

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Correct answer Kevin J. Monahan Jr.

Johny,

I'm with Peru Bob, it likely has to do with cooling. It's your internal cooling that needs to be lowered. A couple of things to try.

Edit in a much cooler space, such as, an office with air conditioning
- Position the laptop close to the cooling ducts
- Make sure the area is wide open and has adequate venting
Get software which monitors and controls the cooling in the case
- Determine if you need better cooling by monitoring temperature
- If it's too hot, see if turning on the fans more frequently helps
- If turning on the fans does not help, see if you can install better fans
- Place a household fan so that it blows cool air on the case
Turn off any additional monitors or anything else which might require more GPU power.

More info in an ancient blog post I made. Still relevant though: Computer shuts down while using GPU intensive applications

Thanks,
Kevin

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RjL190365

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Thanks, Viktor. Now I know why most laptops are really not recommended at all for video editing. The battery might last 10 hours under normal conditions, but quickly drops to less than one hour when stressed like that. And such a high rate of discharge may end up with a permanent undercharge condition, where some of the cells permanently lose their ability to accept a full charge, on that battery pack.

Thus, normally, if one must use a small PC for video editing, an SFF desktop is often a better choice than a laptop.

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Viktor5E4A

Participating Frequently

True, and desktop also offer better value. You spent less and get better performance, hence shorter rendering times and smoother workflow. But in my case, since I'm constantly on the road, laptop is the only option at the moment. I just hope it will last couple of years, I'm rendering usually 5-6 hours once a week in 4K, but the laptop is of the high quality, so will see how long it will last..

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JOHN MONDO

Inspiring

3 hours is not very long for a modern laptop if just surfing the web, which might explain why it only lasted 30 minutes under load. Batteries do wear out but if they are using quality cells they should last at least 3 years, depending on how often you cycle them. Discharge rate can affect life but really it's sheer cycle count and heat that tends to affect them most.

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Viktor5E4A

Participating Frequently

Two days ago, I was rendering video in Premiere Pro. I was in a library, it was encoding it for about 5.5 hours and then I had to unplug it due to library closure, so I went out, sit on a bench outside and was praying that it would finish on time before the battery will drain completely. It was only 24 seconds left before laptop turned off. Battery lasted only 30 minutes. It's a brand new laptop with super performance and high capacity battery. Normally the battery lasts 3 hours when surfing the web, but when rendering it'll drain the battery way faster. Not only that, the encoding significantly slowed down on battery usage. So I would say never render videos on battery unless you have no other choice. It slows down the whole process and it put too much pressure on battery and I would say reduce the lifetime of the battery when doing so very often.

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rodneyb56060189

Legend

good going ! That helps me too, in case I ever unplug my laptop and get off my behind and go out to do some real work.

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rodneyb56060189

Legend

oh. thought you did. well, hope it's solved !

R Neil Haugen

Legend

The fans on my Acer Predator Triton 500 have very different "base" profiles depending on whether the power is AC or battery. The base setting is maxed at less than half the fan RPM rate for being powered by AC. So yes, unless you change the fan behavior to a custom one, for many laptops being on battery does mean a vastly lower fan rate.

It's one of many things designed to extend battery life ... like powering down the screen 20-40%, choking the CPU and or the GPU, things like that. It's a totally different beast plugged in.

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...

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johnya79752862Author

Participant

Thank you all for your advice. I think it will really be a problem with overheating. I'll try to find the fan settings and processor performance when running on the battery. Will you advise me on a program that can do this, ideally for Lenovo notebooks?

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rodneyb56060189

Legend

p.s. I hope you are right, though, Kevin.. that would be really cool !

Kevin J. Monahan Jr.

Legend

Hmm, I did not mark that post as correct. Perhaps the OP did? Maybe the batt made the box hotter or did not operate the fan at full speed. All kinds of scenarios!

Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community and Engagement Strategist – Adobe Pro Video and Audio

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rodneyb56060189

Legend

I respectfully disagree with this down pat answer, because the poster said he has no problem when it's plugged in. If it was a heat issue it would happen in both scenarios ( in my stupid opinion ). The cpu or gpu or SOMETHING would get hot enough to trigger an internal safeguard to keep the hardware from being hurt by the heat.

If it only happens when using the battery then it's probably the battery.

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Kevin J. Monahan Jr.Correct answer

Legend

Johny,

I'm with Peru Bob, it likely has to do with cooling. It's your internal cooling that needs to be lowered. A couple of things to try.

Edit in a much cooler space, such as, an office with air conditioning
- Position the laptop close to the cooling ducts
- Make sure the area is wide open and has adequate venting
Get software which monitors and controls the cooling in the case
- Determine if you need better cooling by monitoring temperature
- If it's too hot, see if turning on the fans more frequently helps
- If turning on the fans does not help, see if you can install better fans
- Place a household fan so that it blows cool air on the case
Turn off any additional monitors or anything else which might require more GPU power.

More info in an ancient blog post I made. Still relevant though: Computer shuts down while using GPU intensive applications

Thanks,
Kevin

Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community and Engagement Strategist – Adobe Pro Video and Audio

Peru Bob

Community Expert

It could be an overheating issue.

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johnya79752862Author

Participant

Maybe, but what about it? When operating on electricity, it heats up like a battery and does not turn off.

Peru Bob

Community Expert

There may be an issue with the laptop not interpreting the battery charge properly and it is shutting down because it thinks that the battery doesn't have enough power left.

Try removing the battery, press and hold the power button for 30 seconds, reinstall the battery and try again with a fully charged battery. Keep an eye on the battery charge remaining.

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