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List of framerates with dropframe?

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Which framerates have dropframe and what is there target frame amount? I am not sure if my terminology here is perfect so feel free to correct any part of what I state. I know from dealing with NTSC 29.97 it has a dropframe framerate there is a target rate of 30 frames. My question is which framerates have similar concerns and what is there target. To be clear; is there any known list of these framerates that have dropframe? Thanks

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    October 1, 2019

    Hi there,

    I think you've mixed up a few of your terms here (no worries!), so I'll give you a quick overview and then a link for more info.

    • Standard frame rates in NTSC land are 59.94, 29.97 and 23.98. The lack of whole numbers has to do with a lot of boring tech stuff decided back in the b&w TV days, and we're kind of stuck with it. But "drop frame" has nothing to do with these numbers, they are simply frame rates.
    • Drop frame (and non-drop frame) refer to the actual timecode, not the frame rate. No frames are actually dropped, but the timecode numbering itself changes. Drop frame alters the timecode to account for the goofy NTSC frame rates so that 1 hour always = 1 hour. Non-drop frame timecode does not allow for this.
    • DF or NDF is only really important if you're producing a program for broadcast. And in that case, the broadcaster's specs will tell you whether to make your program dropframe or not. Otherwise, it's not something you need to worry about -- unless you are particular about having an exact running time. If that's the case, then use drop frame timecode so that your running time will match your actual program time.
    • To answer your question directly: only 29.97, 30, 59.94 and 60 fps have dropframe timecode options. It does not apply to 23.98, 24 or PAL frame rates.
    • I'm not sure what you mean by "target." Like a 29.97 frame rate is not "targeting" 30 fps. Those are two distinct frame rates.

     

    Hope this helps a bit. And here's a link with a little more info (and better technical explanations than I gave): B&H Drop frame article.

     

    Best,

    JVK

     

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    October 1, 2019

    Hi, thanks for the reply. This is super info. I think I knew some of this before when I did do work that related to show length. However, you made this super clear and easy. My main reason for concern is I am working on an application for subtitling, and I need to convert Premiere timecode like "00:00:20:16" @ 29.97 to "00:00:20,554". I was thinking target because I thought that it was adjusted for it to match up. You cleared it up for me. Thank you so much.