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josephp99182465
Participant
April 30, 2020
Question

Massive slow-down when inputting lots of text into Essential Graphics rolling title

  • April 30, 2020
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Hi there,

 

We're working with a client to put together a large list of names in a rolling credits over a simple JPEG image. The list of names, coming from a 17 page word doc, has been inserted into Premiere's essential graphics system. With such a long document, the program becomes highly unstable and largely unusable when making minor changes to formatting and placement of text.

Does anyone have any experience getting the program to pick up the speed a bit when working with such a large amount of text in Essential Graphics? This seems like it should be a simple thing to render easily while remaining editable, but I'm looking at delays of around 5-6 seconds after a single click on a character, thus making any changes to a document this size a monumental waste of time. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

My hardware is as follows:
iMac Pro (2017)

Processor: 3.2 GHz Intel Xeon W

Memory: 32 GB 2666 DDR4

Graphics: Radeon Pro Vega 56 8GB

23 replies

Participating Frequently
February 7, 2023

@Kevin-Monahan thanks, for support, hope Adobe will fix it, very old bug, and due to Legacy Title was completely cut out of Premiere 2023, there is no alternative now (except using old version Premiere 2021-2022). So its time to resolve this.
@Michael Grenadier of course, we all tried Software render and Hardware (CUDA and Intel QuickSync separately and simultaniously), bug present always, for me with RTX 3090 Software on CPU i9 13900k is even more slower then on GPU (like 30%), but on GPU RTX 3090 need 1 hour for 5 min fragment of Rolling Text/Essential Graphics (on CPU like 1.3h).

Of course, you can use Photoshop or any other editor, but we all here for Premiere as All-in-one app fast and convinient, so need to be resolved

Legend
February 6, 2023

just a shot in the dark.  Have you tried changing the renderer in project settings: general to software?  I have a decent windows machine, but 2012 macbookpro that's pretty much end of life ...  But... it's what I use when I have to work at a clients.  changing the renderer to software makes the machine usable.     And as I've said previously in this thread, building the crawl in photoshop isn't that difficult.  If you're working in 1080, you create a document that's 1920 pixels wide and with a large vertical pixel dimension so you can just drop the photoshop file into premiere and animate it vertically...  

Kevin-Monahan
Community Manager
Community Manager
February 6, 2023

Hi Joseph,

I moved this to the Bugs forum. Please upvote.

 

Thanks,
Kevin

Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community and Engagement Strategist – Adobe Pro Video and Audio
Participating Frequently
January 24, 2023
When you put many text in rolling title, using Essential Graphics, it freeze down and makes almost impossible any export or live playback, it goes 1 frame per second (on high end workstation GPU rtx 3090 , CPU 13900k, RAM and so on).
I have posted this bug before https://adobe-video.uservoice.com/forums/911233/suggestions/45697954
Thread was deleted, have contact on email with Adobe team representative Annika, have sent project samples to her, and still after 3 month no solution.
Also there is thread from 2020 year in community with more description and feedback
https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-discussions/massive-slow-down-when-inputting-lots-of-text-into-essential-graphics-rolling-title/td-p/11095270

Adobe Team, please, fix this problem, cause I still using old title editor with previous 2020-2021 versions of Premiere Pro, to work with titles (but old title is also buggy).
Best regards, Kostia
Participant
January 19, 2023

I've kind of found a work around (as this is still a problem jan 23). After testing my project on 2 different computers, I discovered that it's a software issue for sure and it has to do with the amount of text in a specific sequence. I have fixed this by creating a new sequence once the text tool slows down. Text in the blank sequence should be working normal again. When you want to export, you could just paste everything into one sequence. Hope this helps!

Participating Frequently
February 6, 2023

Thanks, for suggestion, but hope after 3 years, Adobe will pay attention to this problem, cause divide text in smaller blocks is not very convinient, and need more time. Looks like some buffer in program is overloaded and stuttering.

@Fergus H @Francis-Crossman17221443 @DaciaSaenz @jstrawn

 

Mod note: text has been edited to remove named employees no longer at Adobe or who are not on the product team.

Participating Frequently
January 1, 2023

@Francis-Crossman17221443 Hi, is there any possibility to fix this problem Massive slow-down when inputting lots of text into Essential Graphics rolling title ?
I have contact with Annika Koenig on e-mail (after posting problem on uservoice), but here is 3 month after it no results, still when you put many text in Rolling Text (Essential Graphics) it export/preview 1 fram per second on RTX 3090 i9-13900k...

This is frustrating really, I was using old text rolling titles instead, but in 2023 premiere it's cutted from programm (and was still buggy, but better then 1 fram per second)
Sorry for off-topic, pay attention, please, to this problem.

Huge Thanks!

Participating Frequently
September 15, 2022

I have RTX 3090 + ryzen 5900x SSD 32 RAM

Why Adobe cannt fix it so many years? Here in 2022 problem remains both in CUDA render and Software render

Legend
September 15, 2022

Premiere is a pretty amazing program and can handle almost anything you throw at it, but in order to make it so comprehensive, they may have needed to make some decisions which limit the performance in certain areas...  If you have access to photoshop or illustrator, you might try prebuilding the title roll there...  and if you do, you can quickly open the title doc in photoshop or illustrator and make changes and do a save and the clip is instantly updated in Premiere, although you will probably need to rerender. 

This is mainly a forum for users... although adobe employess sometimes monitor this board,

You might also report a bug or do a feature request.  

https://www.adobe.com/products/wishform.html

 

And you might consider trying something like Blackmagic Davinici Resolve.  There is a free version that has some limitations and the full version is a single payment of $300, I think.  No where near as good an editing program as Premiere in my opinion, and have no idea if it handles title rolls but I do know in some areas it's performance is much better than Premiere...  

Participating Frequently
September 15, 2022

Thanks, for response, work in Premiere is much convinient for me, then using several programms in which I need learn how to make same task. Main problem that Old type of titles work perfect (that type that they plan to delete at end of 2022), I already on email with Adobe Team, after posting at "Wishform", hope that they will solve it, cause working in Essential Graphics is a bit convinient then Old type of Titles (moreover, which they want completely delete in Premiere 2023).

kojif66493776
Participating Frequently
January 26, 2022

I'm right here with you in 2022.  I've got a massive credit roll with images etc but only a few minutes total, and a render seems like it will take multiple hours.  

 

That's prohibitively long, so I think I'll bite the bullet and remake it in Photoshop.  Don't know why Premiere is so painfully slow with this.

Participant
June 7, 2021

Happening to me as well,  adding a somewhat long credit roll to a film and it's gotten frustratingly unusable. Literally writing this as the program tries to calculate me adding a SPACE . Addding a word via copy-paste took (i timed) about 4 and a half min. I mean it's not some crazy motion effect, and is a actually neat feature in theory, but currently unusable.

 

Using:

Dell G5 15 se

Processor: AMD Ryzen 7 4800H 2.90 Ghz
RAM: 16G

 

Thanks for the workarounds suggested here, but here's hoping that this feature can be addressed by adobe

Premiere v15.2

 

 

Legend
June 7, 2021

you haven't told us what graphics card you have in your system and your source properties and sequence settings.  Post back if you need help learning how to find out this info

https://helpx.adobe.com/nl/premiere-pro/system-requirements.html

If things were working properly in an earlier version of Premiere, revert to that version.  Software updates usually make greater demands on your system hardware and it's unlikely that a future update will reduce the hardware requirements.

16 gigs is not a lot of RAM particularly if you're working with 4k or higher material.  

And as I said in an earlier post, consider building your credit roll in photoshop and then importing it into premiere and animating it in premiere.  

Participant
November 18, 2021

I've been having the same issue as well on various projects.

 

Imac 2017

Pr 15.2.0 

Mac Os 10.14.4

4.2ghz i7

16gb 2400 mhz DDr4

Radeon Pro 580 8 gb

 

Just putting together a moderate feature film credit list in essential graphics. Set up as much as I could in text editor and then migrated to Pr.

trying to change placement using tab and spacebar and replacing text is basically agony. 

 

Please advise.

Emealey
Participant
May 27, 2021

This is happening to me too, anytime I add any text in Premiere. Whether that's a new text box, subtitles, etc. Make one change, literally change a character or shorten the length of the title in the sequence for instance, and I have to wait for the rainbow spinny wheel, save it, and wait again. It's slowing down my workflow immensely and has been happening with multiple projects since I first noticed it in the fall of 2020.

Legend
May 27, 2021

Might be smarter to start a new thread. If you start a new thread.  Post here with a link to the new thread.  but minimally, please tell us your system specs: OS version, Premiere version, amount of RAM, Hardware specs including graphics card and source properties and sequence settings.   You say you've started noticing this in the fall of 2020.  Had you done an premiere update recently?  Were you working on a project started in an earlier version of premiere?   Are you still working in the same version of Premiere?  You might try creating a new premiere project and importing the project you were working on rather than actually opening it.

Lots more questions to ask, but let's get your system info first...