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lehestro
Inspiring
January 13, 2025
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Match Frame does not work properly or allow me to make In and Out markers in Source Window

  • January 13, 2025
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The standard Match Frame functionality is broken for me. It will match the frame in the Source window, but it does not show the match frame clips' in and outs, and I cannot place in and outs. Or rather, when I match frame, it shows the clips in and out markers briefly, and then they disappear. And if I try to set an in or out marker, it does so for half a second, and then disappears as if I had never done so. I have to find the clips in the Project panel, load that into the Source window and then set my In and Out markers. This is a significant impediment to my workflow, and I cannot say why it is happening. To be clear – I am not double clicking my clip in the timeline to load the clip into the Source window (aka the process that would allow me to make trims in my timeline). I am using Match Frame.

 

I am working in a Production. This happens with multicam clips only. With straight footage, the normal Match Frame behavior resumes. This also does not occur with sequences that live within the same Project as the multicam clips. But I have my edit sequences in a separate Project File. 

 

I got a warning at one point – something like "media could not connect to source" or something like that, but all my media is navigable and playable and I can Reveal in Finder without any problem. The warning didn't seem to come with any consequence but this Match Frame issue. I do not know why I would have gotten this warning. No drives have been renamed. No footage has been moved from their original location. There is another editor that is working in this Production along with me on a different computer who does not experience this problem. 

 

1. Open the Production. 

2. Open the Project File that contains my edits.

3. Open and editing sequence with a mulitcam clip in it. 

4. Hit Match Frame.

 

What should have happened is the footage should have loaded showing the matched frame, along with the timeline clip's In and Out points. I should then be able to set new In and Out points to my liking. It should be the same behavior as if I had loaded the clip into the Source monitor from the Project window.

 

What actually happens is It will match the frame in the Source window, but it does not show the match frame clips' in and outs, and I cannot place in and outs. Or rather, when I match frame, it shows the clips in and out markers briefly, and then they disappear. And if I try to set an in or out marker, it does so for half a second, and then disappears as if I had never done so. 

 

I have several 3rd Party plugins installed. They have been installed for ever, and I've never had an issue with them. Red Giant Universe, Batch Rename, and Magic Bullet Colorista. 

 

M1 max 16" macbook pro 64GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.2, Premiere version 25.1.0. 

Correct answer lehestro

Figured it out. I don't understand how Productions keeps all of its constituent Projects talking to each other, but there seems to be a continuous break. I was confused because

 

1) I could not match frame any more, nor turn Proxies off. This lead me to believe media had been unlinked again somehow

 

however

 

2) everywhere I looked, my media was connected. In the timeline of my multicams – online, in the project panels of my media projects – online. Link Media was greyed out because everything was connected. I could Reveal in Finder and everything was connected. I even forced the media online, and then reconnected it. None of that worked.

 

3) Reassociate Source Clips was greyed out as an option. (side note – how do you reassociate multicam clips anyway?)

 

4) I went into one of my edit timelines, selected all, copied and pasted in a new dummy project – things worked fine: I could turn proxies on and off, and I could match frame and set In and Out points.

 

So the issue was entirely with my Edits project – the one with my actual editing timelines. So I go in the timeline, Select All, right click and want to select Link Media – but everything is connected there. I was at a total loss.

 

It was only after about a half hour of freaking out that I decided to right click my sequence in the project panel. There and only there was the Link Media option clickable – so I clicked it and everything was offline. 

 

I don't know why this happened, and I don't know why it happened only to this timeline, or why this seems to be a repeat issue that manifests in slightly different ways, or why having everything seemingly linked doesn't actually mean things are linked, or what arcane method Productions uses to communicate with its constituent parts, but it shouldn't be this complicated. No warnings, no errors, files communicating with metadata properly except for via one off-hand route – it's a mess, and it keeps me from editing. 

 

So if anyone else comes across this behavior in Premiere  –

 

1) try relinking the media in your timeline by selecting all, right clicking and selecting Link Media

if that doesn't work

2) Try going inside your multicam clips and right clicking and selecting Link Media

if that doesn't work

3) Go into wherever Project your source files live and in the Project panel select your media, right click and select Link Media

and if that doesn't work

4) Go back and select whatever sequence is giving you an issue in the Project panel of the project in which it lives and right click and Link Media that way

 

At different times different methods solved the problem, and only that method. 

 

We'll see what happens next. Next thing I learn I'll have to Link Media by running a tin can on a string from Adobe HQ to my office and saying the magic word. 

 

12 replies

jamieclarke
Community Manager
Community Manager
January 13, 2025

Hi @lehestro - 
Thanks for submitting your bug report. We need a few more details to try to help with the issue.

 

Can you navigate to Settings under Timeline and let us know if you have "Match Frame Sets in point" checked or not? I believe for the experience you want you would want it unchecked.


Sorry for the frustration.

lehestro
lehestroAuthor
Inspiring
January 13, 2025

Here is a video illustrating the problem: