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October 21, 2024
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Mixed Frame Rates Question

  • October 21, 2024
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Hello

I've recently started some editing projects that will ultimately end up on DVDs and Blu Rays. These projects typically consist of interviews and film footage. Sometimes, the frame rates of these rushes differ. 

I've used Premiere for many years and have frequently used mixed frame rates in my timeline. Almost always, nothing ever looks odd or jerky - and, after doing some research online, I believe this is because Premiere conforms all clips to match the sequence frame rates?

 

Despite never noticing any errors, I have now had feedback that sometimes the film clips I use in these interviews are out of sync. However, everything seemed fine in the timeline and when I re-watched the exported file.

 

For example, I'm currently editing an interview that was filmed in 29.97. I've used that clip to set my sequence settings. I've dropped in some film clips that are encoded at 24fps. Everything looks and sounds fine. The exported file plays without a problem as well. Yet is it possible for these film clips to play out of sync later down the production line?

 

One workaround I've tried (in order to prevent issues later on) is to create a new 29.97 sequence and drop the entire 24fps film clip onto it. I then exported the film using the 29.97 frame rate. Checking the QuickTime movie inspector, the film does seem to be encoded at 29.97. Yet the exported 29.97. file is exactly the same length as the original 24fps one (and seems to play identically as well). Wouldn't there be a difference in length if the frame rate has been correctly changed?

 

I'm currently scratching my head about this so any help or advice would be humbly appreciated. 

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R Neil Haugen
Legend
October 22, 2024

The vast majority of uses, Premiere can auto-translate FPS differences without issue.

 

Some things that can be a problem are interlaced stuff ... and some 23.98 clips used on 29.97 sequences. And the obverse. I think it might be that either the drop-frame or non-drop-frame thing is part of the issue.

 

So ... mostly ... it's fine to work as you have. For some clips, using Interpret Footage as Carlos mentioned is needed. And this is the only correct use of Intepret Footage to change timeline playback, never for general speed changes.

 

But occasionally you may hit a clip that needs to go to Ae to get what's called 3:2 pulldown. Look that up online for information on what 3:2 pulldown is.

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
Participant
October 22, 2024

Many thanks for both of your replies! Really appreciate your help.

 

I've tried interpreting the footage, but taking a 24FPS clip to 29.97 speeds up both the video and audio to the point were they look unnatural (and I think this is where a 3:2 pulldown might help in AE).

 

One other method I've attempted is to drop the 24FPS clip into a 29.97 timeline, then export the full clip with a 29.97 frame rate. This creates an exported clip that looks and plays fine but now has a 29.97 frame rate...so in theory this would now be perfect for me to edit with the rest of my 29.97 footage.

 

The only thing that has me concenred is that interpreting the clip sped up the footage, while simply exporting the 24FPS clip via a 29.97 sequence (and then keeping that same framerate on the export) prodcues a clip that looks and plays fine...so which method is the correct one to use? 

 

Many thanks again for all your help so far!

R Neil Haugen
Legend
October 22, 2024

If it works on export on TVs and such, it's good.

Everyone's mileage always varies ...