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October 27, 2021
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New Premiere Pro - GIANT disappointment!

  • October 27, 2021
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Took a 6K RED CLIP Premiere Pro 22, could not play it and didn't even understrand the color.

Took the same 6K clip into Resolve 17.4 and not only did it play it like butter - it understand the color perfectly!  How can Premiere Pro be this much behind the curve!   I still love After Effects but my days of using Premiere are only when the client insists!  

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Inspiring
October 28, 2021

I didn't feel insulted for you, Neil, when the drug thing was mentioned.

I'm 70 and take drug pressure medicine every day.

I am also drinking a beer (alchohol is a drug to some intellectuals ).

And took covid shots this past year against virus...another drug and had to get TWO shots....

 

 

That difficulty of 'nobody knows how to get these shots delivered' is like my video monitor dying like a dead duck yesterday, and is now in the garbage.

 

You hope for so much and then reality happens.

 

 

Participating Frequently
October 28, 2021

hi, 

I agree...
I stay on adobe for after effect but Ithink i will leave...
I wait for a real working update since 5 years ...

R Neil Haugen
Legend
October 27, 2021

Wow, that's unfortunate. I've worked some 6k RED recently without any trouble, full support in the Source tab for all the RED settings and played back quite smoothly. Both Dragon and one of the other RED cameras.

 

In fact the RED Dragon was the A cam in the shoot I used for my MAX class, S565: Think Like a Colorist: Color Correction in Premiere Pro. Footage was a joy to work with too ... had the Dragon, my BMPCCRK, and an A7S3. All played fine. Personally I found the RED and the BRAW the easier to work with compared to the A7S3. To each their own.

 

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
Known Participant
October 28, 2021

Must be on a PC where I know Adobe puts more emphasis....either that or you're on drugs. I sent the same clip to my friend who has a $14,000 Mac Pro and it still wouldn't play nice. Though, again, once in Resolve it played like butter. But I don't care. My days of using Premiere are over with - incredibly inferior next to Resolve. Though we will be using After Effects, Photoshop, and the rest of 'em. 

You think like a colorist? There is no colorist worth his salt that doesn't color in DaVinci.

Disney uses Resolve exclusively now. The superman movie, Man of Steel, all in Resolve. DUNE was colored in Resolve color. 

End of discussion.

R Neil Haugen
Legend
October 28, 2021

Wow, a bit personally hostile there ... no clue why. Ah well.

 

To answer the post anyway ... yea, my rig's a PC ... 24 core 3960X Threadripper, 128GB of RAM with a 2080Ti.

 

Your comment about Adobe favoring PCs ... no clue where that comes from. Most of the Premiere Pro development team are by preference Mac people, and they've been running all sorts of things out for the M1 Macs right and left. Like BlackMagic, they need to work both sides of the canyon there and do. But their personal preference and personal machines are nearly all Macs.

 

No, I'm not on drugs ... and again, why the personal pointed hostility is beyond me.

 

"Think like a Colorist" is a title for a presentation tomorrow morning US PDT on Adobe MAX 2021. Notice what it actually like, says? "THINK like a colorist" ...? Because that is what is about ... thinking like a colorist. Never says nor implies that colorists normally work in Premiere Pro. It's teaching beginners to moderately skilled editors how to approach color more like a colorist would.

 

I'm a contributing author at MixingLight.com ... a pro colorist's subscription website. My "beat" there is teaching pro colorists who may at times need to work a project in Premiere Pro how to get the most done. As closely to Resolve or Baselight as possible. I'm quite conversant with Resolve's color page naturally as I need to be able to compare the two.

 

And I daily work with, learn from, and communicate with pro colorists. Which is a joy to be sure.

 

While a full colorist would always prefer the larger tools of Resolve or Baselight, there's a lot of pro produced media that doesn't have time/budget for the conform process, and so ... somebody does what can be done in PrPro and that's it. That's what I prep people for.

 

Though personally, I actually preferred to work in SpeedGrade over Resolve ... but it got EOL'd under the previous manager of Premiere Pro. We ... disagreed, shall we say? I see the lack of a full-on colorist's tool in the Adobe suite as a major hole. And I've been rather blunt about that over the years.

 

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...