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NewBlueFX Titler Pro?

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January 18, 2012
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I'm wondering if anyone here has had a positive experience with this plugin that has been out for a couple months now. I've been working with it on a trial basis for a few days now. For the occasional quick, text-heavy projects this has the potential to add some interesting animations with the provided transitions & templates and decent customization options. It is claimed to be GPU accelerated, but drags my system down to an absolute dead crawl, even with 24 gigs RAM, 8 cores and nVidia Quadro CUDA to play with.

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Mikenel6

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I Just upgraded my newblue titler pro 2.0 to 3.0 and I my NLE is premeire CS6 I am not getting my video over lay in the quick edit or designer windows. I was told there was a glitch with Pre CS6 and that's why I can't see my video under my titling. Has anyone else had this problem.?

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Nicol Simard

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Since BVX3001 wanted to know if anybody had any good experience with NBTP - and reading some of the comments - I got very curious. I use both Vegas Pro 11 and Premiere Pro CS5.5 but have only ever used the version that came with Vegas.

I must begin by saying that NBTP works fine in Vegas Pro on my computer. It is not slow and it works well. So I uninstalled it temporarily from Vegas and I installed the demo version for Windows. I went into Premiere and started fooling around with NBTP. It worked flawlessly: no crash, nice smooth playback, etc. I even created some 3D text and started making it turn and sping. Again, no problems with playback both within the interface and from the Premiere time line.

Then, I uninstalled the demo version of NBTP and reinstalled the one for Vegas only. It's at that point that I kind of remembered someone saying that the NewBlue transition plug-ins are slow on his computer. I went and tried both a transition and a special effect plug-ins. The transition rendered very quickly but not the special effect. It was the Light Effects Glow Pro. It turned my machine into molasses

Since I do not particularly feel like uninstalling, reinstalling, uninstalling and reinstalling Titler Pro, I thought I'd ask the people who are having difficulties with NBTP to try creating some titles but without applying any of NewBlue's plug-in transitions and special effects. They might be at the source of the problems.

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Red Adder

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I've purchased a copy of New Blue Pro Titler.

Seems to work great for 2D effects but when I try 3D things slow up and some of the New Blue Templates freeze PP and have caused crashes.

I know it's nothing to do with rescources as I have plenty of RAM and GPU turned on etc..

I have a question with New Blue that I have just re-opened (have been away for 6 weeks), actually it was Marcus (see in this post) who I was posting with.

He said that they are having trouble with some of the effects and are going to pull some of them (hopefully to fix up at later date)

Hopefully he'll have an answer for me pretty soon.

Regards,

Greg

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NewBlueMJ

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Red Adder wrote:
He said that they are having trouble with some of the effects and are going to pull some of them (hopefully to fix up at later date)

Yes, unfortunately our first release had a broken transition animation (Sparkle). For the moment, it's been removed along with the corresponding templates. We just posted a new build on Monday that has those removed along with a few bug fixes. If anyone needs it they can get it from our Download page: http://www.newbluefx.com/downloads.html

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_r_Evolution

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NewBlueMJ wrote:
Yes, unfortunately our first release had a broken transition animation (Sparkle). For the moment, it's been removed along with the corresponding templates. We just posted a new build on Monday that has those removed along with a few bug fixes. If anyone needs it they can get it from our Download page: http://www.newbluefx.com/downloads.html

NBTP CS6 compatible yet?

You guys using easily accesible version numbers yet?

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_r_Evolution

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BVX3001 wrote:
I'm wondering if anyone here has had a positive experience with this plugin...

for me:

- Vegas Pro 11 64bit seems to like it

- Premiere Pro CS 5.5 just sits there spinning after New Item > NewBlue Titler Pro

It is claimed to be GPU accelerated, but drags my system down to an absolute dead crawl, even with 24 gigs RAM, 8 cores and nVidia Quadro CUDA to play with.

This may explain why my 8GB RAM on 4 Cores w/No CUDA can't deal with it.

Vegas seems to be OK with it but I'd like for it to also play nice with Premiere.

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NewBlueMJ

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- Premiere Pro CS 5.5 just sits there spinning after New Item > NewBlue Titler Pro

Were you using our retail version of Titler Pro in Premiere (not the one that comes bundled with Vegas Pro 11)? If so, do you remember when you downloaded it?

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_r_Evolution

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A few of us shooters/editors were talking about/comparing creating text with BCC Extruded Text, Zaxwerks Pro Animator, NBPro Titler, Boris RED, Photoshop, DJ Juicer, & Bluff Titler.

After our conversation, I downloaded the trial today from here:

http://www.newbluefx.com/shop/videofx/effects/titler-pro.html

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update:

uninstalled the version specifically for Vegas.

(seemed redundant to have one installed for a specific NLE when there's a version for an OS)

ran Windows Update installing, restarting, installing, restarting...

changed 3 Monitors hardware placements on 2 Vid Cards.

changed Primary Monitor via Control Panel.

New Item > NBPT and it's loading!

(slow as thick molasses to react when I change parameters, but working.)

I do not see this as quick and definitely would not use it on any Text Heavy projects as OP suggested.

Mac version coming soon is also exciting... unless it winds up being only for iFCP.

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NewBlueMJ

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Hi, my name is Marcus and I work for NewBlue. I apologize that Titler Pro is working slowly for you. Can you please give me some more details about the issue? Is Titler itself running slowly when you are creating and editing your text? Or is it taking a long time to render the clips after you create them?

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BVX3001Author

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OP gone yesterday, here now. Marcus, maybe you are the person I was doing the back & forth with this week via NBF customer support. By the way, impressively quick replies there.

My disappointments with Titler Pro are due primarily to the need to be constantly rendering & re-rendering a timeline segment containing a title once any changes are made. Otherwise playback is limited to a stuttering series of stills, anywhere from 2 or 3 per second to one every few seconds, while audio plays smoothly. That makes it time consuming and frustrating when dealing with layered comps or trying to precisely time to audio cues. A client's patience would be even less than mine. Unlike lasvideo, I've been very happy with the performance of the other NBF effects and transitions plugins I have - even being able to stack 4 effects on a full HD clip that plays in realtime. The new text animations preview smoothly in the Titler Pro window, but the "sync cursor to host timeline" option doesn't seem to work, and being able to view the timeline's current video image behind the text in your window would be a welcome addition. Also on the wish list would be a much more detailed help file, and true kerning is pretty much a necessity that is missing.

So I guess the problem is I was expecting much more realtime performance from your Titler on a Premiere timeline, especially considering the "GPU acceleration." Expecting too much too soon? I asked this forum to see if it might be a quirk with my system or else a common experience with other Premiere users.

Another thing I noticed is that all of my titles seem to be limited to a maximum of 8 seconds. Is that really true?

- David

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NewBlueMJ

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BVX3001 wrote:
OP gone yesterday, here now. Marcus, maybe you are the person I was doing the back & forth with this week via NBF customer support. By the way, impressively quick replies there.
My disappointments with Titler Pro are due primarily to the need to be constantly rendering & re-rendering a timeline segment containing a title once any changes are made. Otherwise playback is limited to a stuttering series of stills, anywhere from 2 or 3 per second to one every few seconds, while audio plays smoothly. That makes it time consuming and frustrating when dealing with layered comps or trying to precisely time to audio cues. A client's patience would be even less than mine. Unlike lasvideo, I've been very happy with the performance of the other NBF effects and transitions plugins I have - even being able to stack 4 effects on a full HD clip that plays in realtime. The new text animations preview smoothly in the Titler Pro window, but the "sync cursor to host timeline" option doesn't seem to work, and being able to view the timeline's current video image behind the text in your window would be a welcome addition. Also on the wish list would be a much more detailed help file, and true kerning is pretty much a necessity that is missing.
So I guess the problem is I was expecting much more realtime performance from your Titler on a Premiere timeline, especially considering the "GPU acceleration." Expecting too much too soon? I asked this forum to see if it might be a quirk with my system or else a common experience with other Premiere users.
Another thing I noticed is that all of my titles seem to be limited to a maximum of 8 seconds. Is that really true?
- David

Have you tried lowering your Premiere Playback Resolution? Not ideal, I know, but setting it to 1/4 or even 1/2 will allow Titler to render the title faster and you might be able to get real-time preview playback.

You actually _should_ be seeing the video on your timeline as a background in Titler. Now, you do of course have to have the Titler clip on your timeline above another video clip. When you double-click on the Titler clip on the timeline to edit it, your video should be shown as the background image in the Titler editing window.

That being said, we did discover an error with this - if you render your Titler clip, when you double-click it to edit it, sometimes the background is just black. Closing and re-opening the Titler interface seems to correct that. If you still can't see the background video, please let me know and I'll look into it.

As for duration, Titler does default to 8 seconds, but you can increase that. In the upper right-hand corner of the Titler interface is a Duration field that is editable. Just type in the duration that you want and press enter. Now, you will need to save and re-open your Premiere project to get the new duration to register (annoying, I know).

lasvideo

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All the New Blue transitions I have tried out also rendered as slow as mud. I didnt care for their rather simplistic controls and interface. I prefer After Effects for animating and doing cool things with text. And its free if you buy the Production Bundle.

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