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Path 88 Productions
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December 27, 2024
Question

Permiere getting ridiculously sluggish

  • December 27, 2024
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In regards to Permiere getting ridiculously sluggish:

 

Working on a big 'ol doc.  Project file is around 100MB, takes about 15 minutes to load the project from a OSX Mac boot up, and I'm using ProRes 1/4 proxies --for reference.  Oh, there's A LOT Of transcribed media in the project too.

 

I'm editing docs on an Intel iMac and a brand new StudioPro; same issue across hardware with the same project.  64GB RAM in the iMac.  32GB RAM in the StudioPro.

 

Anyway, the project will eventually load, link media, and grind away as all the conform files connect.  Thing'll be reletaively good for an initital stretch.  Peppy enough to not be frustrating.

 

BUT...

 

Then if I decide to try and export something, as one does when creating videos, one doesn't even need to actually do the export, just engaging the export window is enough to make the whole thing screech to a halt. 

 

It's like the project has to re-analyze every single bit of meta data that exists. 

 

So, if you have tens of thousands of clips and hundreds upon hundreds hours of footage.  It takes (relatively-depending on the deadlne) forever.  Worse, the "media pending" issue runs rampant.  It all just bogs down and it refuses to behave in a timely manner.

 

This problem is also really bad if proxies are disabled and then re-engaged. 

 

Something wild going on with how Premiere handles media.  I sense it's fundemental.  I also feel like it ain't pretty  ---meaning there's probably nothing to be done about it,  it's baked into the code, whatever process Premiere needs to do, this is just the way it is and large projects just are too much for it.

 

Now, there's no effective way to get good feedabck on this because an online search is a bunch of dead ends --as the phrases needed to articulate this (such as "media pending" and "media cache") just lead to seperate issues.

So, I'm here trying to get a human to chime in and confirm they're expereiencing Premiere becoming intolerably slow under these circumstances.

 

I'm guessing that if you tend to do with Premiere are short form edits, you probably don't fret about this. 

 

My issue probably stems from big projects?

 

BTW, all media cache files on a snappy .5 TB SSD.  If I burn the time to "media-clean" my cache, it doesn't really do anything.  Once you activate that export window, forget about it.  It's just slow after that regardless.

 

So, anyone else having these slow downs?

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R Neil Haugen
Legend
December 27, 2024

You're doing long-form or episodic on an old style stand-alone project? I've no clue why ... that's guaranteed to slow down.

 

They replaced that model several years ago with the Productions workflow ... which is how one is expected to work large projects. Either long-form or episodic.

 

It's even better with a small one-person shop like mine, for general client stuff.

 

Premiere Pro Productions Introduction

Using Productions in Premiere Pro

Adobe Long-form and Episodic Best Practices Guide 


Jarle’s blog expansion of the pdf Multicam section: Premiere Pro Multicam

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
Path 88 Productions
Known Participant
December 27, 2024

Okay.  Thanks for the tip.  If I'm to understan correctly, if this project is thusly put into a Premier-Production everything will behave just fine?

R Neil Haugen
Legend
December 27, 2024

It will take a bit of time to reorganize.

 

Productions is a very different organizational model. Please read the linked docs, as they give better practical advice on many processes in Premiere even if you don't adopt Productions.

 

In Productions, Premiere creates the Production file and a folder on disc. It looks at the start like a typical project panel. But you organize your project by right-click/ create folders, to build the structure.

 

Such as Media, Graphics, Sequences, whatever. You can make subfolders within those.

 

And where appropriate you create individual project files to hold specific things. The project files in your Media folders will hold your media assets. Sequence projects can hold Sequences. And on.

 

It doesn't suffer from near the resources overloads of doing everything in one gigantic project file. Doesn't have issues with duplicate assets either.

 

And is what, for several years now, they have listed as the only suggested workflow for larger projects.

 

Karl Soule has quite a few YouTube videos explaining it also.

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
Averdahl
Community Expert
Community Expert
December 27, 2024

Maybe it does. Your project file is pretty large so that may be an issue. Do you use Warp Stabilizer on clips? Warp Stabilizer stores the data in the project file and can really make project files unhealthy large and thus making project almost impossible to work with.

 

Do you have enough free space on your disks? Aim for at least 10% free storage on each disk. For example, 200GB free space on a 4TB drive may sound great but is really not. Avoid using the OS disk for any video work, cache, etc. If you are using external drives, are they fast enough?

@R Neil Haugen Ideas regarding Productions projects?

 

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My issue probably stems from big projects?

 


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Path 88 Productions
Known Participant
December 27, 2024
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Do you use Warp Stabilizer on clips?

 

Do you have enough free space on your disks? 10% free storage on each disk.

 

Avoid using the OS disk for any video work

 

External drives, are they fast enough?

 

Yes to all.  So the potential baddie might be "WarpStabilizer"?  I've not used this effect because it can be pretty cheesy, but I have a shooter in the current doc that's awful, so it's been applied here and there.

 

I'll disable it across the board and see if Premiere behaves better.