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November 29, 2016
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Photoshop-like color correction in PrPro 2017?

  • November 29, 2016
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I'm a 20+ year veteran of Photoshop and have come to love, in particular, the "Selective Color" tool's ability to independently adjust C, M, Y and K sliders for the red, yellow, green, cyan, blue, magenta, white, neutral and black tones in a file.

Knowing that 4K video would be part of my future I did the free 30-day Premier Pro trial sometime last fall but did not actually purchase the license until October 1 of this year.  Maybe this is the result of a poor (aging) memory, or maybe I'm getting last year's PrPro trial muddled with some of the other video editing software I evaluated last winter, but I seem to recall in that trial a color correction option at least somewhat similar to Photoshop's Selective Color tool.  The most comprehensive color correction option I can find now is Lumetri Color which has some nice features but does not provide, from what I can tell so far, anywhere near the options of Photoshop's Selective Color tool.

So, my question is two-fold:

  1. Is my memory of a Selective Color-like color correction option in last fall's PrPro trial inaccurate?
  2. Have I just not yet found the Selective Color-like color correction option in PrPro 2017, or do I simply need to experiment more with Lumetri Color to find ways to make Selective-Color-like corrections?
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    R Neil Haugen
    R Neil Haugen
    Legend
    November 30, 2016

    Had to look through several "selective color" explanations to see what you're probably wanting. Yea, most of that is available within Lumetri, but not as you're used to working.

    For the parts such as pushing shadows a bit blue while warming the midtones and pulling the highlights back to neutral, the Color Wheels are designed for precisely that.

    The Creative tab has a pair of color wheels for mooshing around shadow & highlight tones.

    The Curves tab has both a 'standard' curves panel, and an ... interesting ... color wheel for hue control, but again, that's just for increasing/decreasing saturation within hues, not for changing a hue from X to Y.

    For simply sliding tones ... shifting the Red 'center' so to speak, or modifying the character of a particular hue, that's what the HSL Secondary tab is for. You only can work one selection chosen by Hue, Lightness, and Saturation controls however ... so you can't adjust multiple colors to different directions as both Selective color and Lightroom's H/S/L slider array do allow. With Video "post" that's referred to as Hue/Hue (Hue versus Hue) correction and there's a plugin that come with AfterEffects that I think allows that, but nothing in PrPro currently.

    There's an eyedropper in the Basic tab that is for selecting a neutral to do an auto-white-balance ... though in the 2017 release, it somehow got mis-named "Show mask" ... ! It's there at the top of the Basic tab controls.

    Neil

    Everyone's mileage always varies ...
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    PHPhotoGraphicsAuthor
    Participating Frequently
    November 30, 2016

    Neil,

    Thanks for the detailed reply.

    Yes, I found the HSL Secondary tab but was surprised to find that I could not discover a way to use it on more than a single color.  I don't have access to my workstation tonight, so I can't test this myself for a few days:  can I "stack" (sorry I don't know the correct terminology) several instances of Lumetri, each one using an HSL Secondary adjustment on a different color?

    Other than that I'll try some of your other suggestions.  As I told Shooternz, I just didn't want to invest months learning Lumetri if there was a more powerful (and more similar to what I'm already used to using) tool hiding somewhere outside of the PrPro exploration I've done so far.

    shooternz
    shooternz
    Legend
    November 30, 2016
    Yes, I found the HSL Secondary tab but was surprised to find that I could not discover a way to use it on more than a single color.

    Try -  Curves>Hue Saturation Curve Tool.  This will get you control in multiple colors with definable ranges. Unfortunately no picker with this tool but its easy to fins any color on the wheel.  This is a go-to for me and I use it in preference to HSL Secondaries.

    HSL Secondaries. Yes you can use multiple instances of this effect.

    All these work with Masks.  THats the bit I like very much.

    shooternz
    shooternz
    Legend
    November 29, 2016

    You should first be aware that video does not use CMYK. 

    There should be enough controls in CC2017 Lumetri to satisfy your desires to tweak.

    Have a play!

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    PHPhotoGraphicsAuthor
    Participating Frequently
    November 30, 2016

    Shooternz,

    I'm aware video does not use CMYK, and neither do I. All of my Photoshop editing is done and my master files are all stored in the Adobe RGB color space. But part of the beauty of the Selective Color tool is the use of independent C, M, Y and K sliders on each major tone family - even in RGB files.  So in a given file, for example, I can take just my yellows and give them a bit more or less cyan while boosting or reducing green, etc.  And I can do that individually to R, G, B, C, M, Y, K, neutrals, and whites.  Yes, overuse can ruin an otherwise great file quickly, but it's a very powerful tool when used with restraint.

    Seems almost like the difference between a high-precision multi-shot rifle versus what seems so far more like Lumetri's shotgun approach.  But if Lumetri is the best tool I have to work with, then you are correct:  I need to "have a play" and learn the capabilities of that tool.  I certainly don't want to imply that I know everything there is to know about Lumetri yet.  I just didn't want to invest weeks  (months?) learning that tool if there was another one available which is more similar to the Photoshop tool I'm already used to.

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