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April 29, 2023
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Premiere Import changes color | sony camera

  • April 29, 2023
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Hey, I often try to find solutions to my Premier Pro problems on YouTube. But for some reason, my YouTube quest for answers is simply not working.

 

I've been having this issue with the colors in Premiere Pro. A little bit of background on my setup: I use a Sony ZV1 and oftentimes an iPhone to shoot footage. The issue that I'm talking about specifically now, though, deals with the Sony ZV1 camera. I use the auto setting mainly when using this camera for video. For some reason, the colors look different for my footage when I look at it in QuickTime versus when I look at it in Premiere Pro. Everything is fine in QuickTime, but the second i drag the footage into my Premiere timeline, the colors change slightly. In Premiere Pro, the colors are darker and look a little bit off. I believe the highlights are skewed aswell. For some reason, they don't look exactly like QuickTime. This forces me to color-correct every single time, and it's quite irritating. I just want my footage to look like it does in QuickTime. Other editing software, like Final Cut, doesn't give me this issue. I have tried everything under the sun, from changing color spaces to turning on color management. Nothing seems to solve the problem.

 

Do any of you know how to solve this problem? The colors are just off, man. If you can help me solve the problem, it will be greatly appreciated.

 

In this screenshot attached, the left is what the video looks like in quicktime. On the right is what the video looks like on my premiere timeline.

 

 

 

24 replies

R Neil Haugen
Legend
March 4, 2024

They have changed the color management options available in Premiere 2024, and ... have you even looked at them?

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
Participating Frequently
March 4, 2024

The weirdest part about this to me is that I have been shooting and editing in Premier with the Sony A7r4 for over 5 years and before that the A7r3. I have never seen this issue before at my previous employer over 8 years and hundreds of hours of footage and dozens of videos. 

 

I recently started a new job and was given a Macbook Pro M2 loaded, a brand new Sony a7r4, and the Adobe Suite ... now this issue pops up. WTF?  There must be a setting difference somewhere, but I never changed anything between the systems to be different over the years.  It's all the stock Adobe Suite programs.

 

I am going to take this same footage to my old machine at my last job (since I still work freelance for them) and test this same footage.  I am VERY curious of the result. The footage should look EXACTLY like what I shoot on the camera.  BUT, on this new machine and new camera it does not .... it's way darker and more saturated on this new system.

R Neil Haugen
Legend
March 4, 2024

Because of improper color management settings. Combined with Apple's bonkers color management settings for Rec.709 video.

 

Apple's ColorSync CM utility is setup to apply the by-standards camera transform (essentially gamma 1.96) as the display system transform.

 

This is completely non-standard, and is done by no one else. QuickTime Player, Chrome and Safari browsers allow ColorSync to set display CM. VLC and Firefox normally apply their own CM.

 

So actually, the view in QuickTime Player is incorrect if you want full Rec.709 display standards.

 

Further, newer Macs with Reference modes will often use their HDTV settings for Rec.709 video, which displays proper broadcast standard sRGB, D65, display gamma 2.4.

 

Oh, and in test results I've seen recently, ColorSync didn't properly remap Rec.709 sRGB hue values within the display's P3 color space. So there are both improper tonal settings and color remapping.

 

In Premiere you do have controls for things. And choices.

 

Set Display Color Management on, and Extended Dynamic range also.

 

Set both auto detect log and auto tonemapping on.

 

Whether you set the sequence to Rec.709/SDR or HLG HDR, use only export presets built for your sequence color space. Rec.709 sequences,  make sure there is no HLG or PQ in the preset name. For HLG sequences, make sure the preset has HLG in the name.

 

Now for screen display gamma. This is a pick your poison choice.

 

QuickTime 1.96 will show an image very similar within Premiere to QuickTime Player outside Premiere. But understand, on PCs, Macs with Reference modes, and any broadcast compliant system, it's gonna be way dark and oversaturated.

 

Or do what pro colorists do, use broadcast Rec.709 gamma 2.4, and let it go out into the  wild where you have no control.

 

By the way, no professional broadcast media is graded at gamma 1.96. Not a single broadcast or streaming video you see was graded on anything other than gamma 2.4.

 

Some people use the "web 2.2" setting as kind of an in-between thing. But it's all your choice.

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
Participating Frequently
March 4, 2024

Has there been any resolution to this?  I am having the exact same issue with newly shot footage on a brand new Sony A74iv camera. It looks great in the camera and in Quicktime, but the moment I drag it into Premier, the footage turns darker and more red. I can color-correct it to be better, but WTF Premier? Why is your software changing the color so badly?