Premiere Pro Transcription Not Identifying Separate Voices

Woa.  Thanks Stan.  That is alot.  I'll have to pour over that closely.  Seems a bit needlessly complicated, but as long as it functions reliably somehow at the end of the day...

Hello I'm having the same issue.  Anything larger than 10GB can significantly slow down the system and consume memory. However, I believe in this concept by Adobe.  

@jonskurprods,

My post to @Path 88 Productions may help with some of your questions.

Yes, multiple clip source transcriptions pose special challenges. See my post here:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-discussions/ai-transcribe-for-multiple-tracks/m-p/13814589#M464791

Let us know what you come up with. Lots of directions to take this.

Stan

@Path 88 Productions,

Thanks for the screenshots and especially the video. Very helpful.

This is a challenging workflow. It only takes a detail or 2 and you are quickly into the weeds. But it can just as quickly get back on track. While you get it sorted, work with short clips. I have noticed long transcribe times, but I am not working with material as long as yours.

Separating Speakers.

Sometimes, you have used the 3 dots menu to confirm that "Show speakers" is checked. This setting, however, only tells PR to show the speaker designations in the transcript window. It does NOT mean that speakers will be identified during transcription.

And then when you used the transcribe button in the "untranscribed sources" prompt, it did not have speakers set.

When you get the "Create source media transcription" dialogue, you get the actual "Separate speakers" option. And then it works.

I have not discovered exactly when it does not show the dialogue and whether it sometimes ignores the speaker separation if you set it in preferences.

In any event, check Edit -> Preferences -> Transcription and be sure you have speaker separation set there. If it shows "Select an option," it is not set. You can set it there by turning on "Automatically transcribe clips," setting speakers to "Yes, separate speakers," and then turning off "Automatically transcribe clips."

Editing Speakers.

If you have speaker separation on and manually or through the auto-transcribe create a transcript for a Source media file (i.e. a clip, whether in a sequence or not), you can edit speaker names as long as you are viewing the transcript in the Source Monitor view. If you are in the Program Monitor/timeline view, you do not have the 3 dots to the left of the speaker name and get a hover message "To edit speaker names, make changes in the Source transcript." Just double-click the clip (to open in the Source Monitor), and you can edit the speaker name in the transcript.

Also note that if you select the timeline/Program Monitor, and click the 3 dots in the Transcript tab, you can pick "Generate Static Transcript." This is the "old" style transcript. For this one, you can edit the speaker names when the timeline/Program Monitor is active.

No Dialogue Found.

> when the "show source monitor transcript" icon is activated, Premiere says "No Dialog Found".

This primarily happens any time you select Source Monitor view and there is no source open in that monitor. Or the source that is active doesn't have dialogue. Or it doesn't have it on the first audio track - Source Media transcription only looks at audio track one. For this purpose, "track 1" is your stereo track, not just one of the channels.

There is a workaround for the track 1/source issue.

Follow Active Monitor.

There are situations where you want to turn this off. But my preference so far is to leave it turned on. All this does is to set the view to whatever monitor you were in last. So, for example, if I want to edit speakers and I am in the timeline with a clip that has a source transcript, I am seeing the Program Monitor/timeline view of the transcript - and the speakers will not be editable. I just double-click on the clip, it opens in the Source Monitor, I switch to the Transcript tab - where Follow Active Monitor now shows the source view, and the speakers are editable.

Yes, a lot to unpack...

Stan

Dear Francis-Crossman, the updated transcription interface has new bells and whistles that make it more confusing, and I'm getting the same problem as the others. All my speakers are identified as "unknown" which didn't happen in the previous version on the same exact interviews.

In addition, when I try to re-transcribe, that menu item is gray-out and therefore unavailable.

When I select Source Monitor transcript, it successfully separates out the speakers, but I'm not sure how to deal with that when an interview has more than one clip. I believe there are several bugs in this new interface that need to be fixed.

Sepreating Speakers during a transcription seems to work when I launch the transcription from this window:

However, Seperating Speakers Seems to fail and give me the "Unknown" problem when I launch the transcription from this window:

I'll conclude by acknowledging that I'm running a system with two extra monitos, if that factors into the issue at all.

Premier Vers. 23.4.0 (Build 56) 3.5 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i5, Radeon Pro 575 4 GB, 64 GB 2400 MHz DDR4

Works:

Doesn't work:

Don't know if this is a clue or not, but when I launch the Transcript function when the "show program monitor transcript" icon is activated, this is what I see...a selected AI Transcription is underway.  However, as you can also see, when the "show source monitor transcript" icon is activated, Premiere says "No Dialog Found".

So, this UI is a bit confusing to me.  Am I using it wrong?  I don't know.

Now, on the other hand, everytime I've attempted a re-transcription when the "Show Source Monitor Transcript" icon was activated and an actual clip was in that window, the transcription has worked.

So this is a 90 minutes interview that took 30 minutes to transcribe.  It failed to seperate the voices even though "show speakers" is tick-boxed.

So...yeah, now I'll "re-transcribe" again.  As you can see, pretty time consuming when it fails.  Cool service, but I can't figure out how to get it consistent.

Also, anyone getting fluxuating transcribe times?  Adobe touts 10x, but I'm around 5x, rough estimate overall, and sometimes more like 3x.  Is it dependant on system resources and will multi-tasking affect the times?