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problem with Premiere Pro CS5 project files bloating

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May 26, 2010
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Has anyone had the same problem that we're experiencing? - we have Production Premium CS5 installed on a machine with Win 7 Pro x64. We have three separate edits all of which are experiencing bloating of the .prproj project file. Often this bloating seems to occur when no importing of assets has occured, just changes in the edits. A project which started at 5mb has bloated to 1.5GB and we can no longer save it. Another project has bloated to 200mb and continues to grow in size. We have not brought in any weird assets, although we are using hi-def footage.

We upgrade from CS3 and never had this problem using Premiere CS3.

We can't fix the problem by 'remove unused footage' as this doesn't reduce the project size, although it does remove the unused footage.

We can't fix it by importing the project into a new clean project as the problem and huge file size just comes with

We can't fix it by using the project manager to collect up the project as it requires to save before collecting and the problem files can't be saved.

A couple of points to note - these projects were originally on Premiere CS3 and were upgraded to CS5. The footage is either Sony EX3 or Canon 5D - both HD.

The machine it's running on has 8gb of RAM.

Currently the projects I'm working on are gradually grinding to a hold with no way to make the files usable again.

Any suggestions are greatfully recieved as I'm at a loss. I've reported this to Adobe, and will report back if I get anything useful.

thanks.

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Anonymous

I have the exact same problem, couldn't save, edit, nothing without hours watching the cursed wheel go round for hours and hours.

Thank you, what i did was make a new project and import the sequence i wanted, and so far seems ok.

I also deleted ALL previous preview files and old Auto Saved projects.

Was driving me insane.

Jane

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traveler6666

Known Participant

The problem still exists even in CS6. Some of my one hour projects need more then 15 minutes to open, 15 minutes to save or export to AME!

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acmputr

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Create a new project and import everything into it. That always worked before.

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porubskeho7

Participant

Looks like the patch has just been released. Any success with the problem?

jeremy d.

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porubskeho7 wrote:
Looks like the patch has just been released. Any success with the problem?

Uhmmm, no, it has not

Todd_Kopriva

Inspiring

There was a Bridge update today. It shows up as a Premiere Pro update because Bridge is used by Premiere Pro.

RDA972

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You can also delete all the relevant preview files by accessing the Adobe Premiere Pro Preview Files folder.

Go to Project > Project Settings > Scratch Disks to locate that folder.

LB47

Participating Frequently

Great, I'll check it out.

thank you,

LB

RDA972

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You're most welcome.

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Mandip1307

Participant

I'm another victim of the bloating project file size. I have been editing AVCHD footage (with some multicam elements) in CS5 on my Win7 64bit Quad Core 8GB Ram machine. The project is a wedding with a timeline of 3hrs. I was on the back end of editing the project in prep for importing to Encore when I started noticing the sluggish response times in loading, editing and saving. Eventually the software stopped responding and took several hours to come back. After some investigation I found that what would be typical project file size of around 16mb bloated to 360mb!!!

I rang Adobe technical this morning (before discovering this forum) and the chap I spoke to did not really know much about the problem. He suggested it may be something to do with hi-res j-peg images I had been using in my titles. Following his lead I eventually got back into the project and deleted the j-peg files. After saving the project I went to check the project size and found it had now bloated to 780mb.

I have not tried any of the work arounds suggested yet so will report back on if these resolve the issue for me. I am wondering whether everyone who has been experiencing this problem has found it re-occurring on other projects?? My fear is that I am planning to edit over 15 weddings in the next few months and don't want this to keep happening until Adobe eventually release the fix.

May have to go back to CS4. Like others I feel cheated having invested so much in the software. Adobe please release the fix ASAP!!!

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Mandip1307

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Rendered preview files deleted and project size back down to 10mb from 780mb. Causes a pain as I cant now preview work that has Magic Bullet Looks added to it and other transions and effects. This raises another question to get around the render files issue.... If I was to upgrade my ATI Radeon graphics card to a mecury playback enabled card would I reduce my problem of having to render files (for preview purposes) which in turn cause the project file to bloat?

FW_CC_MAINAuthor

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Mandip - thats a good question about the Cuda graphics cards solving this problem - I'd be interested to know the answer as if Adobe aren't about to fix this problem any time soon this could be a good (albeit expensive) work around.

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jean-sébastien_B

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Hello!

I'm french. I have a idem probleme (23mo to 1go). But i have resulte problem...a littte resolution : I don't restart my Imac ! The "bloading project" is back when I load my project .prproj (41mo). Since 3 days I don't restart Abobe premiere CS5... and I haven't bug boading !

Adobe support say to me :" Adobe team work on the problem".... But since the month MAY ! That's crazy !!

You'haved resolved the problem ??

Cordialement,

JSebastien B

FW_CC_MAINAuthor

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I agree Sebastien, I'm disappointed that there hasn't been a fix for this yet as well.

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Ed Laury

Participant

Same here. I had to go back to CS4 and all it's problems with crashing in the middle of projects and green screens during DVD encoding and slow-ass render times. If there is a fix please release it if there is not a fix how about a refund? People have deadlines and editing is a painstaking process as you know. How frustrating it is when you can't open your project or even save it when a project bloats from MB's to GB's C'mon guys.

rickg1949

Known Participant

Misery loves company!! I am glad in a sick way to find out I'm not the only one with a project file that went from 14megs to 1.6gigs mysteriously. Fortunately it's in a project that can remain idle for a while but I will need to access it again when the client wants to update this collection of annual commercials. Guess the next time I have a couple hours left over I'll open the file and try to purge the renders and unused clips per post above.

The first time this happened to me was in an even smaller project that contained an After Effects Dynamic Link segment inside one timeline. Let me know if anyone has any other tips on this wild weight gain. Thought it was only my belly that had the "bloating" problem.

Hang in there everyone. Ain't upgrading fun?!!

rg

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Matnesss

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I'm having this problem too now. A project ballooned up to 2.1 GB on our mac.

It looks like Sherl said that you have found a fix over a month ago.

Any idea when the update will be released?

Thanks,

-Matt

jeremy d.

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Yes we have.

No, I can't say when. Sorry.

Mattnesss wrote:
I'm having this problem too now. A project ballooned up to 2.1 GB on our mac.
It looks like Sherl said that you have found a fix over a month ago.
Any idea when the update will be released?
Thanks,
-Matt

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Anonymous

I'm glad to hear a fix is in the works. Add me to the list of project bloat sufferers. I was rendering with AME overnight and left my Premiere project open...the next morning I looked inside my auto-save folder and noticed a huge jump in my auto-saved project files during the night when I wasn't working on the project. My workaround was to abandon my current project file and use a "pre-bloat" auto-saved version as long as I can (and hope I didn't lose too much work) before it gets the bloats as well. I opened the task manager to see what's going on during a save of a bloated project, and the memory usage just keeps increasing until all my memory is used up and completely locks up my computer...not good!

the_wine_snob

Inspiring

Welcome to the forum.

Glad that you found this thread, especially as there are comments from Adobe on the issue. We are so very fortunate to have that presence, as most of us (mere users) would have been in the dark, and scratching our heads - until it happened to us.

Now, we just need to wait, and I am certain that the situation will be corrected.

Good luck,

Hunt

eckelsteve1

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My solution to bloating (outside of dieting) is to remove render files, that's the big one. Since I organize all my clips into timelines, on the project tab, I hit "Remove Unused," and it gets rid of all clips not in timelines.

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Anonymous

First of all Nat, a big thanks for directing me to this thread. I really thought I was starting to go mad when a perfectly normally functioning project became a sluggish unworkable wet fish! My work originates in CS5, I am working on 1080P material, most of which is ProRes 422 HQ, although in Premiere it's flagged as EOS_DIGITAL and defaults to an AVC-100 sequence.

Be that as it may, I have been working perfectly happily until a few days ago, when everything suddenly ground to a halt. Finally I noticed that the project had jumped from 40 to over 200Mb, for no apparant reason. This larger project file could no longer be opened without freezing/crashing. I am not using any filters or plugins on the time line, but I do have about 30 mins worth of rendered 1080 previews.

For some reason I got an error when trying to import individual sequences into a new project. However deleting the preview files (about 3Gb) has done the trick. The project file went from 130 to 12 Mb.

Two things I have noticed:

1. when things go wrong, saving the project happens with a long pause when the progress bar pops up. It sits there for ages before it moves.

2. oddly, looking in the autosave folder I now see earlier versions of the project that went from 40 to 130Mb...and then back, without me noticing any problems. Presumably because I had the project open the whole time.

I hope this is fixed soon, but at least it helps knowing a workaround! If the Adobe guys n gals are interested in another before/after project file example, let me know and I can mail you a download link for idisk.

the_wine_snob

Inspiring

Interesting observations, and thanks for reporting.

Many are hoping for an upcoming fix. We know that Adobe is on the case, so we'll just have to see what they can come up with. Observations, such as yours, might prove useful to the lab techs.

Thanks,

Hunt

Sheri_Codiana

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Just an update, it looks like we have a fix for this. I can't share a schedule publicly, but it'll go into the next update.

Sheri

FW_CC_MAINAuthor

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Awesome news.

Thanks everyone at Adobe who's been listening to us here and who's worked to get a fix. I know I speak for others when I say it makes a real difference to have you guys on this forum, helping solve problems - you do Adobe credit and make it less of a faceless company.

I'll look forward to the next update.

thanks,

Nat

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acmputr

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I have pre and post bloat/unable to save project files. How would I get them to you?

Wil Renczes

Adobe Employee

PM me with your email address, I'll send you a share link.... thanks!

By the way, we think we have a lead on what's going on. It seems to be a combination of rendering preview files and then duplicating the rendered sequences in your project. Eliminating the previews & resaving should bring it back down to size.

tclark513

Known Participant

Wil Renczes wrote:
PM me with your email address, I'll send you a share link.... thanks!
By the way, we think we have a lead on what's going on. It seems to be a combination of rendering preview files and then duplicating the rendered sequences in your project. Eliminating the previews & resaving should bring it back down to size.

Awesome!! Looking forward to the fix!!!

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