Proxy Editing and Dynamic Link

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December 8, 2016
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Hi everyone, so I am quite new to the new version of Premiere. I just updated yesterday from CS6. I am also new to 4k editing and I'm using proxies to do it. I'm using the ingest settings to create 720p versions of the 4k footage. My question is when I have proxies enabled in Premiere then do a dynamic link to After Effects what happens to the clip? Does the 720p proxy carry over, or is it now the full 4k version? And then back in Premiere after adding my effects is the clip still a proxy in the timeline or has it been replaced by the 4k version?

Thanks!

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JoshuaAlveyAuthor

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I ran the test and added the watermark, After Effects does in fact take the full 4k file to use when dynamic linking. So thank you guys for that suggestion! However, this has now created a problem because now I have the full 4k dynamic link clip in my Premiere timeline which won't play smoothly like the other proxy clips. Any idea's to remedy this?

R Neil Haugen

Legend

Thanks for posting back.

I'm NOT the best expert on Ae comps on a PrPro sequence ... some experience, but not often enough to be solid in my knowledge. That said ... as I recall, one can still render Ae comps into your preview codec. I used Ae a lot more back in the first days I did video post ... CS6 into the original CC. And my computer at that time was an adequate rig for stills work in Lightroom & Photoshop, with an AMD GPU ... and really sucked in PrPro.

So I rendered my comps to get them playable, again as I recall.

Another thing ... especially if you're going to be using Lumetri on things, which also can slow things down ... if you think you're done modifying that comp section in Ae, from Ae render out an export in a good full-res/depth intermediate codec such as Cineform or upper ProRes/DNxHD/R options, and replace the comp in the sequence with the fully rendered clip.

You can always go back, re-work the comp/re-export ... but your playback & exports from PrPro/ME will probably be smoother/quicker.

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...

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JoshuaAlveyAuthor

Participating Frequently

I think what I'm going to do, as cumbersome as it may be, is after I'm pretty sure I'm done with adding VFX in after effects, I'll "render and replace" the dynamic link clip in Premiere. Then right click on that newly rendered clip in the Project window and create a proxy from it with the same proxy settings as all my other clips. That way the clip with added effects will play smoothly in my timeline. If anyone has a better option please let me know!

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excited_Genie16B8

Legend

So the short answer is, test it out and let us know.

R Neil Haugen

Legend

Ann's suggestion is a good one ... Product Support Manager Kevin Monahan (also a good editor/colorist by past jobs) doth suggest using watermarks also, I've also seen someone that used a different pixel-shape just to easily 'see' proxies in play.

Past that, the effects are supposed to be applied to the main media as far as the project file is concerned. And "passed on" to the proxies as they're played, by comment from an Adobe engineer at NAB last spring as he demo'd it to me. So ... his comment of the time was that nothing is actually 'tied' to the proxies in PrPro's project file, so everything is supposed to work exactly as it would if you didn't have proxies ... just that you should get better playback at times with them.

He specifically included AfterEffects in his comment, but I've never tested this out. I would ... anticipate ... that Ae will simply use the original media, but ... testing it out would be easy enough. Say, do a small test with a test-project using different-proportion frame-size, then do the Dynamic Link over to Ae ... you'll see right off which you're working with.

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...