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originalsmiley
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April 15, 2020
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Reverse match frame + Clip Usage in Productions

  • April 15, 2020
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Been playing with Productions in the new version: just a couple of questions...

As an example, let's say I have a Production with a MEDIA Project and a SEQUENCES Project. In my SEQEUNCES Project, I have a timeline, referencing clips from the MEDIA Project. 

 

1) Is there a way to reverse match frame from the MEDIA Project, to the timeline in the SEQUENCES Project? I haven't been able to get that to work.

 

2) Is there a way to see the clips used in the Timeline in the SEQUENCES Project in the browser of the MEDIA Project? Clip usage seems to only reveal which clips are being used in their respective projects. For example, multiple cameras in the MEDIA Project browser will show they are being used in a multicam sequence of that same MEDIA Project, but not in the Timeline they are edited in of the SEQUENCES Project. Is there a setting I'm missing?

 

    Correct answer Kevin-Monahan

    Hi @originalsmiley,

    This issue was fixed in version 15.2 (Premiere Pro 2021). Let the community know if this feature is not working for you.

     

    Thanks,
    Kevin

    9 replies

    J_Boy
    J_Boy
    Inspiring
    February 3, 2025

    Hi, SO this is marked as solved, but what about part 2 of the original request? Will clip usage in a Production ever be able to function across an entire production instead of just within individual projects?

    R Neil Haugen
    R Neil Haugen
    Legend
    February 3, 2025

    They will probably not announce such a thing until it appears in the public beta. They rarely give advance notice of something to be added to the app. 

    Everyone's mileage always varies ...
      Kevin-Monahan
      Community Manager
      Kevin-MonahanCommunity ManagerCorrect answer
      Community Manager
      January 29, 2024

      Hi @originalsmiley,

      This issue was fixed in version 15.2 (Premiere Pro 2021). Let the community know if this feature is not working for you.

       

      Thanks,
      Kevin

      Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community & Engagement Strategist – Pro Video and Audio
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      originalsmileyAuthor
      Participating Frequently
      January 29, 2024

      reverse match frame seems to work. but does 15.2 also show where clips are being used in which timeline and which Project of the Production?

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        Zachcfowler
        Known Participant
        January 22, 2024

        Just a heads up for everyone on this thread: the noble Knights of the Editing Table have come to our rescue again and, with the new update, you can now a reverse match frame in all projects! Excalibur is an awesome tool all around but I would buy it all over again just for this one tool: 

         

        https://knightsoftheeditingtable.com/

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgXdwwk5_AY

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          spearsredits
          Participant
          January 17, 2024

          Also adding to the request for this. For modern workflows especially those involving assistant editors (which is really what Productions is for, it feels like) it's super important to be able to match frame between a shot in a project containing the current edit, and another shared project containing the stringouts and setups of footage. Otherwise it's impossible to pinpoint what take might currently be in use quickly or to quickly locate alts.

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            Dustin27863757zbl0
            Participating Frequently
            October 13, 2023

            Just adding to the noise that this NEEDS to work for modern workflows. Kind of a huge Achilles heel in my job. 

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              Erik Ionatan Schatz
              Inspiring
              June 8, 2023

              Any news about this topic?

              I'm about to start a new projects using the Productions workflow and I'd like to know wether or not this has been solved. 
              Or if anyone has found a workaround.

              Kevin-Monahan
              Community Manager
              Kevin-MonahanCommunity Manager
              Community Manager
              June 8, 2023

              Hi @Erik Ionatan Schatz,

              I read your message. Thanks for the post. I will ask a team member to comment as I am unsure if the bug has been addressed yet. @mattchristensen1, do you have any insight on this issue with Productions?

               

              Thanks,
              Kevin

              Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community & Engagement Strategist – Pro Video and Audio
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                Zachcfowler
                Known Participant
                October 23, 2021

                I know this is old but I would LOVE to see this feature re-enabled. 

                  SeeSalt13
                  SeeSalt13
                  Known Participant
                  September 20, 2022

                  Agreed.  It's insane that this doesn't work.  If the project can find a clip in another part of the production that's open, just send up an error prompt.

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                  vstew415
                  Participating Frequently
                  May 28, 2021

                  I'm happily working in a production after importing my very large project file and breaking it up into many smaller project files within the production. So far so good. all the projects are referencing media clips that are organized in their own project file. The problem I'm running into is that I can't match and reverse match frame between sequences in different project files even though they're referencing the same clips.

                   

                  The simplified scenario is as follows:

                  - Project 1 has video clips. Project 2 has Sequence A. Project 3 has Sequence B.

                  - Projects 2 and 3 don't hold any other material other than those sequences.

                  - Sequence A and Sequence B both include Clip 001, which is stored in Project 1.

                   

                  If I match frame into Clip 001 from Sequence A, open Sequence B, and attempt to reverse match frame from the Source Panel, nothing happens. "Reveal in Project" confirms that both sequences are referencing the same Clip 001 in Project 1. Is there anything I'm doing wrong or has this been addressed in more recent versions of Premiere (I'm working in v14.3)? It seriously impacts my workflow if I can only match frame between sequences in the same project file, and doesn't seem in keeping with the whole thought process behind the Productions workflow.

                   

                  Thanks!

                    bsam123
                    bsam123
                    Participant
                    January 27, 2023

                    If I match frame a clip in the timeline, set new in and out points, delete the clip from the timeline, it then deletes it from my source monitor all together. But only if it's the single instance that clip is in the timeline. My guess is that because the media is loaded in another project than in my sequences, when I delete it and don't have that project open, there's no reference to it anymore. So it vanishes completely. This is extremely annoying and inconvenient.

                    Kevin-Monahan
                    Community Manager
                    Kevin-MonahanCommunity Manager
                    Community Manager
                    April 22, 2020

                    Hi Smiley,

                    Thanks for the questions. I asked a developer to respond. Here are the responses:

                    1) Yes, this is a current limitation we are aware of and hope to enable it in the future.
                    2) Clip usage is only in a project because a Production can’t know about the projects that aren’t open.

                    Thank You,

                    Kevin

                    Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community & Engagement Strategist – Pro Video and Audio
                      CitizenSam
                      CitizenSam
                      Known Participant
                      July 7, 2020

                      Can I get some clarity on question 2? What if both the Media project and the Sequences project are open within the production? Are you then able to see the clips used in the Timeline in the SEQUENCES Project in the browser of the MEDIA Project?

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