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Scaling doesn't work as expected with stacked transform effects

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January 19, 2025
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Two transform effects stacked on a clip. Scaling up using the first transform behaves just as expected - image size increases from the anchor point. However, now when I scale up using the second transform, even though its anchor point shows exactly where the first transforms anchor point is, the scaling doesn't happen from this anchor point. It looks as if the anchor point shifted for the second transform, but it hasn't (the coordinates of the anchor point are the same for the second and first transform effects). When the first transform is disabled the second transform works just as expected - scaling from the anchor point. Why is this happening?

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Correct answer Carlos Ziade

If you are keyframing, you can keyframe scale properties from both Properties and Transform effect, so that you don't have to use 2 transform effects...Neil's nesting advice works good too

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Akai 2.2.5

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I have this problem too which WASN'T in the 2024 version on PP. How can you do a decent keyframing if you have to nest after each action. Oh my god I'm so tired of Adobe, after each update, you d'ont know what you're about to find and if you'll be able to work properly.

I use keyframes A LOT because my job is to do motion design 70% of the time, but imagine doing it like this.

An update is supposed to increase the stability and the power of a program but when it comes to Adobe, it's the complete opposite.

R Neil Haugen

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I find it fascinating how we all work differently and so often get different behaviors.

Personally, I've never had solid results trying to stack transform and other animated effects. Sometimes it works, but I have too many times had what are clearly processing order errors pop in. Or getting the keyframing working as I intend goes bonkers instead.

So in practice here, I've always nested, which is quick and easy. And from talking with a number of the top Ae wizards, it's what they would also normally do or recommend when working in Pr only. And a reason they like doing all their complex keyframing in Ae's Comp panel.

Everyone's mileage always varies ...

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Akai 2.2.5

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Stacking Transform effects especially when it's on an adjustment layer is a better solution for me especially when you have to do the same zoom, multiple times, to the same anchor point on the same clip, instead of doing a drag an drop and tweak the effect multiple times.

By Stacking Transform effect I can animate better because I can overlap the keyframes while seeing all of them, which is not the case with nested clips.

In AE it's completely different because, when 2 precomps are opened, wherever the playhead is, it's at the same place in all of them if they are all in the same comp.

But in PP it's note the case, if I want to see where the other keyframes are to tweak them, I have to double click to have the playhead from my timeline at the same place inside the nested clip, which is really time consuming, that's why I don't work like that anymore.

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Carlos Ziade

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If you are keyframing, you can keyframe scale properties from both Properties and Transform effect, so that you don't have to use 2 transform effects...Neil's nesting advice works good too

R Neil Haugen

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After applying the first transform effect, Nest the clip, then add the second one. This controls processing order.

Everyone's mileage always varies ...

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