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March 26, 2020
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Sequence Settings for a Canon 80d then Exported to Youtube

  • March 26, 2020
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Hey Everyone,

I'm shooting on a Canon 80d and the settings are 1920 x 1080 and 59.94 fps. I edit it in Premiere Pro with those Sequence Settings and then when I export it for Youtube I use H.264 for the Format and "Youtube 1080p Full HD" for the Preset and then select "Use Maximum Render Quality". However, after I upload it to Youtube it loses a lot of its quality and becomes somewhat pixelated. 

I know Youtube compresses the video when you upload it but should I be shooting in a different setting, should I change the sequence settings, should I be exporting with different settings? I'm a bit new to this so looking for any help I can get.

Thanks! 

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R Neil Haugen
Legend
March 26, 2020

"Maximum render quality" won't be doing anything for 1080 media on a 1080 sequence exported to 1080 files. That is an option involving frame-resizing, useful if you are getting 'jaggies' or pixelated edges on diagonal lines in the export. For most projects like yours, does nothing.

 

YouTube has a couple different processes it uses ... a common one is to apply only their first step of converting a file, and that results in fairly low quality. Their second level of processing involves recoding that to a rather better quality file internally. I know in the past one could "push" the second step by selecting the file on your channel, going to the Edit section, then saving the file without even doing anything ... YouTube would then re-encode the file to the better quality internal codec.

 

I also know some people who upload DNxHD/R and/or (I think also ... ) Cineform files. The uploads take longer as the files are bigger, but YouTube does take them and gives better quality results off the bat.

 

Neil

 

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
Legend
March 26, 2020

it doesn't look that terrible to me.  But I can't fault you for trying to get the best possible quality.  Are you applying any color correction filters to it in Premiere.  They often will add noise.  

 

How does your sequence look from within Premiere when you're fully rendered and viewing at full resolution?

 

If you've got plenty of bandwidth with your internet connection, you can try and upload a higher quality video (maintaining the pixel dimensions) to see if that makes a difference.  Not sure if there are any file size limitations with youtube.  You can customize the encoding settings in the export dialog.  Start with the youtube 1080 preset and then go to the video settings and up the bitrate and maybe experiment with the 2 pass vbr or the constant bit rate.  I remember when I spent more time tweaking these things that in some cases a constant bit rate would give you better results.  

 

Also, take a look at the video on youtube on a few different computers, devices, etc and see if the pixelation is still objectionable.  Which brings up a point.  Make sure you've got the quality settings in the youtube viewer set to 1080.  

Participant
March 26, 2020

Thank you! 

So looks like if I shut off Max Render and do CBR that seems to make it better.

Thank you all for the help! 

Inspiring
March 26, 2020

maybe try a short export ( adjust wab ) without max render quality checked.... ( turn it off ).

 

 

Legend
March 26, 2020

the youtube preset I think will be 30p (29.97 fps progressive) not 59.94.  I'm not sure exactly how premiere handles the fps conversion, but that might be part of the issue.  Hopefully someone here will have a better handle on this.  If it was my project I'd be doing a bunch of tests with "interpreting" the footage to 30p or using optical flow in the timeline for the speed change.

 

Salvo's absolutely right about adjusting your camera settings.   Test and test some more to find the ideal workflow.  I generally shoot 24p (23.976) particularly in low light situations for the additional sensitivity to light but these are generally music performances in locations that are dark and don't have a lot of fast movement.  

Participant
March 26, 2020

Thanks! 

Yea I tried shooting at 29 fps and then uploading it to Youtube and it was still grainy. Here's an example of what I mean - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVz2cunqD7I&feature=youtu.be

Inspiring
March 26, 2020

try shooting near 24 fps.. like 23.976 etc...if you want a so-called FILM LOOK.

That would put your shutter about about 1/48th second.

 

adjust ISO to get more from your camera.

 

shoot short tests for import and export and upload ... so you don't waste a lot of time getting the 'quality' down pat.

 

🙂