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cédricl67786023
Inspiring
January 8, 2019
Question

.srt import and editing not working in Premiere CC 2019

  • January 8, 2019
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Hello,

I have a big issue with .srt files. I used to import .srt and add them to a sequence, then I used to edit size etc.... It is ok in Premiere CC 2018 but, it seems that all edit settings are doing nothing to the text . To reproduce the issue you just have to open Premiere CC 2019, load a .srt file and place it on the timeline, and try to edit captions settings (font size, font etc...). In my case I can see modification in the preview thumbnail of each caption in the "Captions" tab but, nothing is visible on the monitor, the text remains the same (very small and... that's it ).

Can you help me with this bug ? Thank you !

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    6 replies

    Participant
    May 24, 2020

    Shutting down adobe and reopening made my captions update... But it's annoying that I have to do something like this just to update captions every time. Not an effective strategy. 

    BMcCarty
    Known Participant
    June 21, 2019

    More observations from working with captions in Premiere.

    If you import a .srt file, then change your import settings, then delete the .srt file and re-import it, Premiere will apply the settings that were in effect when you originally imported the .srt. It doesn't seem to matter how many times you delete and import, Premiere stores the original settings someplace, ignores your current settings and applies the original settings instead.

    I found that I had to change the .srt filename - EG adding a "2" to the filename - before Premiere would finally "forget" the original import settings and apply my current import settings. This behavior is the reason I thought changing my import settings had no effect at all on importing .srt files - because it doesn't if you try re-importing a file that Premiere has already imported. 

    I also just experienced the "no-changes-take-effect" issue - wherein changes I make in the "Captions" window - EG font size, background opacity, etc. - aren't reflected on the timeline until after I quit Premiere and restart.

    So if you're pulling your hair out with frustration, please know that you it isn't you, it is in fact the application. Maybe some of these tips and workarounds will help alleviate your frustration. 

    Anna-Lena I
    Participant
    December 28, 2019

    Slightly renaming the file name worked! I was reimporting files all evening long, trying to make the import settings take effect. 

    I thank thee!

    BMcCarty
    Known Participant
    June 21, 2019

    First off, the entire captions handling in Premiere Pro is buggy as hell. Adobe knows this, and has been saying for 18 months that they're going to fix the problems. They still have not corrected any of the issues.

    I've also experienced the failure of Premiere to update captions on the timeline in response to my changes. My typical workflow is to import .srt, select all the individual captions using the "Captions" window and change the font size to 55. About one time out of every four, nothing will happen on the timeline, but the captions in the preview window will show the change. I have to quit Premiere and then restart it for the timeline to update. Half the time Premiere won't restart properly, so I have to restart my machine.

    You might be saying, "But Bill, just change your caption import settings to import .srt files at 55 point font size, and you'll never have to change the size in the 'Captions' window again." Yes, in theory that is how it should work. But my caption import setting have NO EFFECT AT ALL on the .srt files I import. I have my font size set to 55, but every .srt I import comes in at 18 points. I can change settings all day, and Premiere just ignores them.

    I submitted another post about the acknowledged bug that bottom-justifies all text against the caption background:

    Re: Open caption files are bottom justified against background

    The response I received was to up-vote the bug fix at the link below, and maybe try a third-party captioning tool. There is no such tool for Premiere, so essentially we're just out of luck. The functions don't work reliably, and there's little chance Adobe is going to fix them anytime soon. Vertically align Open captions text against background box. – Adobe video & audio apps

    BMcCarty
    Known Participant
    June 21, 2019

    OK, I need to respond to my own post to 1) admit that I was doing something wrong, and 2) offer some guidance:

    The steps below show the process for changing your import settings. The changes to the settings were actually working for me, but I was getting confused by the height/width setting under "Video Settings." Every other frame-size setting in Premiere Pro is width/height, so I wasn't reading the settings labels correctly and was transposing the values. That's on me.

    That said, I can't guarantee that these settings will work for everybody, but Here are some tips for changing the default caption import settings and minimizing the caption alignment bug - an acknowledge bug that you can up-vote here - Vertically align Open captions text against background box. – Adobe video & audio apps

    To modify import settings:

    - Go to "Window", and open the "Captions" window

    - Click the "Import Settings" button

    - Under "Video Settings", enter 1080 into the "Height" value and 1920 into the "Width" value

    - CAUTION, the values are shown as height/width instead of width/height.

    To minimize the caption alignment bug:

    Under "Alignment Settings" and change the "Line Spacing" value from 50% to 100%. This will move your text up against the background color instead of bottom-justifying the text to the background color.

    Here are two examples of the text alignment. The first shows the default 50% line spacing, the second shows 100% line spacing. Not perfect, but better...

    To modify the default text size for captions:

    Under "Style Settings", uncheck the "Proportional" box to the right of "Font Size", and enter your desired font size instead. A font size of 48 to 52 usually works well for a 1920 x 1080 frame size.

    shannab44218426
    Participant
    October 21, 2019

    Thank you! You've saved me from a world of pain!

    DrTc
    Inspiring
    April 20, 2019

    If anyone could shed some light in the following issue I'd be grateful..

    Working in PP with the captions track editing, finessing timings, duration...
    Realizing they are open captions, where closed captions are needed.
    Cannot find way to convert open captions to closed captions.So as a workaround I export captions as srt from PP.
    I Set import Settings to CEA 708.

    Then I Import the previously exported captions.
    They come in as closed captions. Nice!

    However their length is severely chopped.
    Not even half of the exported captions make it back in.
    I tested exported captions and are full length, but for some reason, when I import them not even a minute comes in...
    Any suggestions?

    Stan Jones
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    April 20, 2019

    Look at the exported file and examine the first caption that does not come in.

    Maybe paste here.

    DrTc
    Inspiring
    April 21, 2019

    https://forums.adobe.com/people/Stan+Jones  wrote

    Look at the exported file and examine the first caption that does not come in.

    Maybe paste here.

    nothing different found in the format.
    here is the first caption missing:

    11

    00:00:44,146 --> 00:00:47,249

    by the surrounding circumstances

    or influences

    Pehaps the generated xml has issues?

    Participant
    April 7, 2019

    The "Save As" trick worked for me.  THANK YOU!

    Stan Jones
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    January 8, 2019

    I am not having problems with this basic functionality in 2019. There has been an issue that I have see on occasion (and other users complain of it also occurring randomly), where the appearance in the program monitor is not in sync with changes made - but the changes are usually visible in the captions panel.

    That is similar to what you describe, but I do not recall it happening from the beginning of editing.

    First, more info: what OS, exact dot version of PR, a screenshot of your captions panel.

    If you can post the srt you are importing, I can take a look.

    Relatively new is the ability to change the import characteristics. Look in the Captions Panel in the lower left for "Import Settings." If you know you need to change the font style, size, etc for all your captions, this does the trick.

    cédricl67786023
    Inspiring
    January 11, 2019

    Thank you for your feedback !!!! After some tests I finally find out how to make .srt works in Premiere, but.... for me that is a bug !

    1 - Start Adobe Premiere CC 2019.
    2 - Load the video on the timeline.3 - Import .srt files and add it to the timeline. From now I can't edit the .srt layout (only have the preview in the Captions tab).

    4 - SAVE AS the project
    5 - Close Adobe Premiere CC 2019, start the software again.

    6 - Load the project and now you can edit captions layout.

    If you import other .srt, edit won't be possible until you save the project and restart the app....

    To sum up.... when you import .srt you have to save the project before any edit of the captions layout..... (sic)....

    Stan Jones
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    January 11, 2019

    Glad you found a way. I do not have to take those steps to get a caption stream to edit. BUT, when I do occasionally get this bug, it is steps like yours that may get it working again.