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March 22, 2022
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Switched to M1 Mac - Why can't I export 5.1 audio for mpeg2-dvd or mpeg2-bluray files?

  • March 22, 2022
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Hi all, I've always used surcode on my PC verson of Premiere to export 5.1 audio for my DVD and Bluray files however I've recently moved to an M1 Mac Studio and surcode is not supported on the M1 system.

 

I am still able to export 5.1 audio as an h.264 mp4 file which I use to give clients on a USB stick however I now cannot export either of the other two formats I need to export (bluray and dvd) in anything other than stereo sound.

 

I saw a youtube video that specifically says that dolby digital should be available in mpeg2-dvd and mpeg2-bluray formats however it was 5 years ago and I think I'm right in saying Premiere stopped offering dolby from 2018 onwards.

 

Am I right in saying that surcode is the ONLY way to export these 5.1 files for disc copies now? If so, what are M1 mac users meant to do?!

 

I usually use encore to encode my discs however I don't have this for mac so I'm a bit stuck there too.

 

Assuming I somehow manage to find encore for mac, can anyone recommend how I can use the 5.1 h.264 file that premiere can export, to then author dvd and blurays without quality loss? i used to use TMPGEnc for premiere plugin to get higher quality bluray exports on PC but guess what, thats not available for mac either...

 

The M1 mac studio is the most powerful editing machine I've ever used, but my hands are tied in so many areas that making the switch to it full time is proving such a headache...

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chrisw44157881
Inspiring
March 23, 2022

The built-in Dolby Digital settings in Compressor (in the Create Blu-ray and Create DVD destinations, as well as in the built-in AC-3 and EC-3 audio settings) use the Dolby Digital transcoding format.

 

https://support.apple.com/guide/compressor/dolby-digital-cpsrb71736a2/mac

 

 

Known Participant
March 23, 2022

I can't seem to see any link between compressor and premiere though? Only final cut? Could you explain more.. I'm very new to mac!

chrisw44157881
Inspiring
March 23, 2022

You export mono tracks out of premiere as quicktime multichannel audio and then setup the audio channels in compressor for dolby digital encoding.

 

from compressor's user manual "If you want to output a 5.1 surround sound audio file, you must first create the six channels of audio required and then import those surround sound files into
Compressor. Then you can use Compressor to output the surround sound source media file. Dolby Digital audio settings: Dolby Digital (AC-3) settings include even more audio channel
layouts, including 3.0, 3.1, 4.0, 4.1, and 5.1."

Kevin J. Monahan Jr.
Legend
March 22, 2022

Sorry David. DVD and Blu-ray is not really easy to do on the Mac these days. I was not aware that the Surcode software is not working with Apple silicon. Bummer. You may want to have a PC around for some tasks. I need one, actually. Time marches on. Let me know if I can help otherwise.

 

Thanks,
Kevin

Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community and Engagement Strategist – Adobe Pro Video and Audio
Known Participant
March 23, 2022

thanks Kevin, yeah I still have the PC currently but it'd be a real gripe to have to copy an entire project back to the pc just to export the disc copies in 5.1. I am not desperate to use dolby digital, AAC format is perfect for me and what I use for the mp4 files, but AAC does not seem to be selectable with the MPEG-DVD and MPEG-BLURAY presets.

neil wilkes
Legend
March 24, 2022

That's because AAC is not Blu-ray or DVD spec approved. Period.

For DVD you have the following 5.1 options:

1 - AC3 (support is mandatory, meaning all players must be capable of reading/outputting it)

2 - DTS & DTS 96/24 (support is optional, which means some players and/or amps may not be compatible even though it is a vastly superior codec)

 

For Blu-ray it gets more complex.

1 - LPCM - mandatory, all players must be capable of outputting this

2 - Dolby True HD (aka MLP Lossless with a hidden core stream in AC3)

Whilst Dolby True HD support is mandatory, the mandatory component is only stereo, which means it is very possible to have the 'True HD' lights on and only be hearing AC3. Be very careful with this. 

Also with 'True HD' you need 2 streams, the MLP & the AC3 and the 2 must be encoded by the same system, so only really the Dolby Media Producer software can provide Blu-ray legal coding. It is VERY expensive.

3 - DTS-HD Master Audio

Again, the mandatory support is stereo not 5.1 but with the DTS codec there has never been a decoder that cannot accept DTS-HD MA in 5.1 where it can accept stereo, so the odds are 99% favourable. The core stream is embedded in the Master Audio stream, so only one encoding is necessary.

 

Please get in touch of you need more - we do a LOT of Blu-ray & DVD.