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May 24, 2018
Question

Transform Effect Error

  • May 24, 2018
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Why adding any number of shutter angle in the transform effect cause to unpredictable changes in scale and position?

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    Participant
    October 11, 2024

    just make sure effect transform goes after motion then awreting gonna be alright!

    Participant
    October 13, 2024

    Not sure what you mean, what motion do you mean?

    Participant
    May 27, 2024

    I can't believe this is still unresolved. These suggestions didn't work for me. It's clearly a bug because if I export through media encoder the results are unpredictable, but it's ok if I render thru Premiere.

    Double East
    Inspiring
    October 20, 2022

    I have been running into this issue for years as well, and sadly this still hasn't been resolved. I'm working on a Apple Macbook M1 Max. This issue takes away the only possibility to add motion blur in premiere pro, please resolve this @Adobe....

    Participant
    April 9, 2021

    Стокнулся с такой же проблеммой, как только включаешь Shutter Angle изображение смещается и работает не правильсно, но стоит отключить CUDA  и перевести проект в softwary only  все начинает работать правильно. Глюку 2 года а Адоб его так и не исправил.

    Participant
    December 18, 2020

    Hey! Not sure if you're still having these issues, but what usually works for me since this happens a lot, is once you uncheck "Use Composition's Shutter Angle," go to the Transform effect's anchor point and set it to the center of your workspace rather than the center of your clip. Hope this helps!

    Participant
    April 14, 2020

    I expereinced the same issue which what lead me to this thread. I was trying to use a 4K footage in a 1080p sequence for zoom in. It definitely seems like a bug. My work around is to reset the achor points and positions of transform effect to 960 x 540. This centred the anchor point for me on a 4k footage. hope this helps.

     

    Participant
    January 22, 2020

    This bug has been present in Premiere for at least 2 years (I've been using the Transform Effect massively prior to the bug), and I just found a (better) way to fix it. I was doing the nested sequence fix to circumvent the issue, but I now happen to be in front of a footage in a higher resolution than the sequence, and I want to keep the quality while doing motion blur effect.

     

    The problem lies within the Anchor Points and Positions of the Transform Effect.

     

     

    Clip Resolution : 4992x3744
    Sequence Resolution : 3840x2160
    [Motion] Anchor Point : 2496x1872
    [Transform] Anchor Point : 1920x1080 (Modified from default value)
    [Transform] Position : 1920x1080 (Modified from default value)
    [Transform] Use Composition Shutter Angle : OFF
    [Transform] Shutter Angle : 360
    Renderer : Mercury Playback Engine GPU Acceleration (CUDA)

     

     

    All you need to do is to bring back the Achor Point and Position of your clip in the Transform Effect to the center of your sequence (1920x1080 for a sequence of 3840x2160). The faster way to test if it worked is to turn off the Composition's Shutter Angle, add a Shutter Angle of at least 1, and add a Rotation of 90 degrees or 180 degrees. Perfect center means everything else will work as expected.

    This is not a driver issue (as I've read this comment elsewhere), this is clearly a bug introduced in Premiere Pro in April 2018, somewhere between version 12 and 13.

    Jamie Windsor
    Participant
    October 24, 2018

    My current workaround is to make the transformations with the motion controls, then replace with After Effects composition, turn on motion blur on the layer and the sequence then save and go back to Premiere. Not ideal, I know.

    Community Expert
    May 25, 2018

    and for everybody here, the 'Transform Effects' is so delicate, especially when it comes

    to switching 'use composition shutter angle' on and off

    I once tried moving a premiere pro project from a windows 7 (service pack 1) pc to

    my Macbook Pro, so all my assets having the 'Transform' effect applied started

    flickering on export ! I just turned off 'use composition shutter angle' and everything

    went back to normal, no more flickering. I later discovered that the windows pc had a

    Quadro k2000, and my Macbook Pro had a Radeon 450, so premiere project was

    stuck on interacting with the supposedly Quadro k2000 on a Macbook Pro, so turning

    off the automatic use of composition shutter gave priority to my Radeon Pro 450

    JupersAuthor
    Inspiring
    June 1, 2018

    So, does that mean that It's impossible to use scaling without loosing the quality (resolution)? If it works only with nest.

    Community Expert
    June 2, 2018

    Premiere Pro is not after effects, you can scale without loosing quality if you are working

    with an illustrator file or any other high res footage, but when you start creating complex

    keyframing and animation, you will have to nest in certain cases for the complex keyframes

    to work perfectly, and you can nest your footage in a sequence at the same resolution as

    your footage, it will act the same as if you are working with the actual footage without nesting.

    It is all a game of preserving same settings while nesting. When I nest text, for example, If I

    want to use scaling on the nest, I scale my text to fit on screen before nesting it.

    Kevin-Monahan
    Community Manager
    Community Manager
    May 24, 2018

    Hi сергейз,

    Does this happen with new projects or just updated ones?

    Thanks,

    Kevin

    Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community & Engagement Strategist – Pro Video and Audio
    Ann Bens
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    May 24, 2018

    I can reproduce this on images that do not match sequence settings.

    When nested problem is gone.

    JupersAuthor
    Inspiring
    May 25, 2018

    It is definitely a bug! I understand that presets need some adjusting for different resolutions, it's ok. It's not ok when shutter angle causes unpredictable position changing. Most of the time I apply this effect to footages which are smaller than my working sequence. If I nest them to bigger size my animation become wrong. And what does Adobe team suggest to do in that case?

    I usually don't nest my footages to smaller resolution.

    It happens with a new projects too.