Unable to break out nested layers when using nest as source

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December 18, 2023
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Today has been a day I'd rather forget in Premiere Pro 4.1.0. I'll just report this persistent bug here which is killing my normal workflow but t's not the only one to hit me today.

1. I often shoot in 4K and create a multicam source with the source reframed in 1080P as below

2. I then use that multicam as a source as seen above

3. I cut it into the sequence as nested video

4. But I like to cut my raw audio in for two reasons - it may need to be adjusted in the essential audio panel and I like to see my waveforms when editing - something that doesn't work in multicam audio (why Adobe? A topic for another discussion)

5. This is a workflow that I've used a thousand times before - both on this kind of multicam and 4 camera multicams - any kind of multicam. Today it's broken... if you look at the image above and below, no matter which way I toggle the nested source button it does not un-nest (is that a word?). I cannot see my nested source tracks, it only appears as source nest.

I should be able to see my individual video and audio tracks from the source. ie V1, V2, V3 and A1 - A5. this is breaking a significant workflow for me.

I've tried making sure I have the source window selected (becaue I've noticed sometimes PP will ignore the source if you've previously dragged something straight form the project window), taking the sequence I'm editing into out of multicam mode (not that that has ever affected it before) but it's broken. At least for my setup.

Yes, I can work around it by copy and pasting from the source but it involves a number of additional steps to keep the audio in sync that I wouldn't normally have to do.

System specs MacBook Pro

Model Name: MacBook Pro
Model Identifier: MacBookPro18,2
Model Number: MK1A3X/A
Chip: Apple M1 Max
Total Number of Cores: 10 (8 performance and 2 efficiency)
Memory: 32 GB
System Firmware Version: 10151.41.12
Operating System: Sonoma 14.1.1

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Correct answer Ben Insler

could you at least put it to a vote?

Not to worry @JOHN MONDO, any opinions voiced are considered a vote cast, so the vote's been ongoing the momemt you started this tread 🙂

We have restored this functionality with a new preference in the timeline panel menu called Multi-Camera Follows Nest Setting. When enabled, cutting Multi-Cams into a sequence will revert back to the old behavior where the ...Nests or individual clips toggle is respected. This is available right now in Beta. Keep an eye on future version release notes for non-Beta availability.

Thanks for all the feedback from everyone here!

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JOHN MONDOAuthor

Inspiring

I'll try that next.

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Carlos Ziade

Community Expert

did you try to reset the preferences?

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JOHN MONDOAuthor

Inspiring

I can open the nested sequence in the timeline - that's not the issue - it's editing as a source into the master timeline that's broken. A multicam is essentially a nest - you should be able to break out nests into their source elements by using the below button in the timeline window. It's always worked - now it's broken. Just to be completely clear, I mean when using the multicam as a source. I know this button has no effect on clips already in the timeline. I don't want to muddy the waters with a discussion on waveforms. Let's just say multicam audio is hardly ever the right thing to use.